2015 Fleet Service thread

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  1. Eagle

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    Please direct all Fleet Service specific discussions here.
     
  2. bob@las-AA

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    This thread ought to be dead in less than a week. 
     
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    Thank you for posting that 700.
     
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    YW
     
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    While I will abide by the mods wishes and keep fleet and AMT seperate, I wan't to second what one of the AMT's said over on their thread.
    Many of us are over 50 and each day is costlng us dearly. Money added to my 401k (per the raise we have not recieved), extra savings I can be putting away (from the raise I have not received) obviously I could go on and on...but do they not realize many of us are closer to retirement than not. There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse, NONE for them not to already had proposals exchanged, or at least damn near it. The Association has not followed through on one single promise they made pre or post merger. Lomabardo has done nothing more than send AA letters in a apologetic tone as to if they don't mind, could they please tell us why no prefunding yet. If it's not too much trouble could you kindly explain why my members have not received the 4% raise like most other work groups. I can only imagine what they will say when the Association puts out the DELTA PLUS 7 Delta plus 3 letter telling is why...And whoever sent that email out didn't make me feel better about the situation, it actually made me feel alot more skeptical. It was nothing more than a "this why you shouldn't expect the plus 7". That should be completely different than all the other items, even Parker said as much...nothing in exchange for the raise!
     
    And by the way email sender, I'm not a negative spinner, I'm a realist in search of transparency and facts!
     
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  8. Albert

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    What happened to meeting the company 30 days after  NMB  ruling ? Parker is waving (lifestyle changing} money at us and this guy is saying
    we already have a good contract.
     
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  9. 700UW

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    Are you that obtuse?
     
    They didnt negotiate 30 days after the Association was certified, as they didnt meet and reconcile the two CBAs, legally they werent the certified bargaining unit.
     
    The company is the one who had the power to trigger the 30 days, they didnt as they knew the Association wasnt ready.
     
    Do you want a thorough JCBA or something just thrown together?
     
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    The Ass has a barrel full of excuses ready to go at a moments notice, a question or comment comes up and they reach in the barrel and pull out another. Once again it all comes down to $, the Ass has its own interests first the membership second.
     
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  11. Albert

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     Give me your excuse (you are going to anyway) for them only meeting once a month for a few days?
     
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    Obtuse is a big word for 699. Don't waste your time listening to his failure reasoning.
     
  13. Albert

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    He is right I am obtuse I cant for the life of me understand why someone who is not employed by AA would stay on here for hours an hours
     
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    I think that cargo will be the sacrificial lamb to finance this supposed pay raise. This raise will also be right up front and nothing again for years
     
     
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    and i bet you would be happy to see that right bob? 
     
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    Why? Oh thats right, because even the guys in cargo would love to get that "Big Money".
     
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    How much do you think they will save by contracting out cargo? Its only in a few cities, the employees  will be absorbed not laid off and then the company has to go and pay a contractor
     
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    It all speculation until if and when we get to the table even then they won't tell until an agreement is reached
     
    It's all speculation until if and when we get to the table, even then they wont tell us until there is an agreement
     
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    Hmmm......so Parker & Co. are already backtracking on their bold, if not foolish, guarantee of "Delta +7" with regards to pay rates and are now going with a "Delta +3" (No doubt due to the massive raise that Delta recently announced) Not that I'm surprised in the least, of course. If Parker is known for anything, it's been his wonton disregard for rewarding his frontline agents with competitive pay....just look at the history of America West and US Air. America West was essentially paid like an LCC and US Air was pretty much the same, always bringing up the rear as compared to its fellow mainline peers were concerned.
     
    What is shocking to me however, is how many of the union members on here already seem to be resigned to this fact, as if there's absolutely no room for negotiation.....what the hell are you paying a union for representiation for then if Parker can lay down the law before the negotiations having even begun in earnest now that you know where Delta stands???
     
    And while math has never been my strong suit, assuming AA does indeed get "Delta +3" which would be around $48 dollars more than Delta every 2 weeks.....after you take in to account the $60 or so you'll pay in union dues each paycheck, that "Delta +3" essentially turns into a "Delta -1%"
     
    This of course says nothing of the 10% profit-sharing that's coming our way that AA doesn't take part in, as Doug has never been a fan of rewarding frontline agents for helping the company turn a profit.
     
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