2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

Delaying nic for 10 years..................................................................................................................check

• Loss of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, VACATION, TIME OFF & LOCKED ON LOA 93 UNNECESSARILY FOR 7 YEARS......................................................................................................................................................................    CHECK
• JUST CAN'T BUY A CLUE FOR A LIFETIME...................................................................................................DOUBLE CHECK
• PARIAH OF THE INDUSTRY.......................................................................................................................................VERIFIED

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Airwaves June/July 2000[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]The Board shall retain jurisdiction[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] in accordance with Section H. 5 .b. of the ALPA Merger Policy to resolve any disputes over the meaning or interpretation of this Award. This retention of jurisdiction shall terminate when all provisions of the Award have been satisfied. In the event the Chairman becomes unavailable or unwilling to serve to resolve such disputes, the Merger Committees will agree on a replacement Chairman or will select one by the alternate strike method from the most recent ALPA list of seniority integrations arbitrators.  In the event one of the Pilot Neutrals becomes unable or unwilling to serve on the Arbitration Board to resolve such disputes, the Chairman, after consultation with the Parties, shall decide how to proceed.  In any such arbitration, if there is a dispute between the methodology contained in the Award and the accompanying Integrated Seniority List or any other list purportedly using such methodology, the Seniority List prevails.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]George Nicolau, Mediator[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met.  The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exhibit 1 of  Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013[/SIZE]

 

[Pi brat]

Don't worry Pi.  We WILL have movement soon.  Fall?  2017?  Who knows. 
 
It will be OVER when the BOA delivers the new AA pilot seniority list.  DONE.  No "do-overs".  No more "new unions" that bring the "gold standard".  FINAL & BINDING.
 
Happy New Year to all of US.  2016 will no doubt bring a lot of interesting changes.

Except for those of you living in the past, it's over NOW. Sure we have a few clean up items like how much of the USAPA treasury you guys will get and our new seniority numbers, but the real battles are over. You can move on or keep quoting the past. Your choice.

Happy New Year.

 

[nevergiveup]

[SIZE=12pt]“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Airwaves June/July 2000[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)[/SIZE]

Watching Cactusboy53 quote out of frustration.................................................Priceless!

 

[EastUS1]

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Hang in there Dude, the fun is just beginning.
 

 
i almost hate to break this to you, but "the fun" is finished. Whatever results from the arbitration will be what they are, and ZERO of your past, present or future juvenile nonsense makes ANY difference at this point, if indeed it ever did.

 

[EastUS1]

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• JUST CAN'T BUY A CLUE FOR A LIFETIME...................................................................................................DOUBLE CHECK.

 
So it would seem....no matter how many ridiculous T-shirts are involved or "Liberty" ties sold....
 

• PARIAH OF THE INDUSTRY.......................................................................................................................................VERIFIED   Ah yes indeed. Sigh...No worries, since all are well aware that from it's inception; AWA unquestionably was every aviator's innermost, secret dream of one day achieving employment with.

Thanks as always for the dependable laughs.

 

[traderjake]

Except for those of you living in the past, it's over NOW. Sure we have a few clean up items like how much of the USAPA treasury you guys will get and our new seniority numbers, but the real battles are over. You can move on or keep quoting the past. Your choice.

 
Everyone understands why you don't want people reminded of USAPA's unethical history. 
 
You got your do over, be happy with that. 

 

[EastUS1]

 

• WATCHING YOU TWIST IN THE WIND AND CHALLENGE US TO DOG FIGHTS...........................DOUBLE CHECK & VERIFIED

 
Hardly any actual semblance of "DOG FIGHTS", but just a purely recreational flying wager for grins and a few bucks. Any and all "TWIST IN THE WIND" came solely from "sparta."  Just imagine all the chuckles "you'se" fine "soldiers" of "sparta" provided everyone with all your duck/hide/runaway and evade behavior?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk

 

[EastUS1]

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You got your do over, be happy with that. 

 
And yet "LT Hardy"; you asserted that outcome to be impossible for years. One must certainly hope you pick stocks/futures/etc with at least a bit more acumen than you've ever displayed here.

 

[traderjake]

Hic!   Kasher will pay.
 
Except for putting the WB F/Os ahead of the NB Captains I predicted exactly how Nicola would rule and I predicted the West would get a MC.

 

[EastUS1]

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Except for ......

 
"Except for" and any/all other feeble excuses count for absolutely NOTHING in this world. Such never have and never will,  which may well explain why you clearly can't actually make a living as a successful "trader"....Shucks!...That bullet would've "never" hit him, "except for" the fact he kept insisting on stupidly putting his head up at all the wrong times....?
 
You've some very curious mental processes to offer us all: "Except for....I predicted exactly..."? Seriously? So...Some even slight portion of that obvious absurdity actually "makes sense" to you?

 

[Pi brat]

 
Everyone understands why you don't want people reminded of USAPA's unethical history. 
 
You got your do over, be happy with that. 

News flash for you trader-MOST PEOPLE DON'T CARE. Those that do know all about it by now, no need for years old quotes.
 
Flew with a F/A friend the other day that had just gotten off an airplane with west guys. Her take-"Pretty nice guys, but why are they still so hung up on the past? Isn't that over?"

 

[traderjake]

 You obviously care because you defend and make excuses for what USAPA did every chance you get.