A.M.F.A. support at the line stations?

Agreed. However the question was; "not slamming the twu for bringing back
another concessionary t/a?" My answer is bankruptcy. It is a painful enough process to go through without me contributing nonsense in to the mix. And you are correct. Both the IBT and AMFA used it against each other for campaigns. I'm not that guy.

Fair to say.
 
Rcvd from DFW AMT

APFA vice president endorses American Airlines’ last, best and final offer to flight attendants



By tmaxon
[email protected]
10:35 am on August 1, 2012 |

August 1, 2012

Dear Fellow Flight Attendants,

My initial reaction to the Company’s Last Best Final Offer (LBFO) was, “Oh, hell no!” and at first I thought I could never endorse this for membership ratification. But after careful study of the potential harm and future devastation which would occur if the offer were rejected, and the clear improvements to the 1113 term sheet, my position changed. Among the key points for me was the scheduling provisions which will be lost forever with a vote to reject. The more I read and understood the offer and the realities we face as a union, the easier my YES vote became to make and recommend.

I want more than anything to see a merger with USAirways take place during bankruptcy. It is the best plan for the flight attendants and our company. According to USAirways’ CEO Doug Parker, the fastest way to accomplish a merger is by approving this offer. Having said that, the LBFO represents the best insurance policy available to us in the event that we do not achieve a merger. The absolute worst case scenario will be realized if we reject this offer and Horton keeps control of the Company. We simply cannot afford that.
In virtually all previous airline bankruptcies, labor groups secured agreements similar to our LBFO and as you will read below there is an important reason for this. If we deliver a NO vote, the judge has two options: rule in our favor on the Company’s Section 1113 motion, or grant the Company their motion and legal permission to abrogate our contract. History shows that Courts favor the bankrupt companies in these motions almost 100 percent of the time.

If American exits bankruptcy we will resume negotiations with management. But where will we start? Since the Court will likely allow the Company to gut our entire contract, will we be starting from scratch, using the Section 1113 term sheet from March 22, the LBFO, or our pre-bankruptcy numbers? The Company has said they want to stick with the March 22 term sheet, which as you remember was an insult to our profession. But, there is no law that says they can’t sink even lower than the term sheet and knowing their tactics and the money they’ve been shelling out to bankruptcy lawyers, management can probably can stretch this argument for at least a few years. Let me repeat that: if we reject the LBFO and the Court grants the Company’s 1113 motion, management may be able to impose a contract even worse than the March 22 term sheet. All they would need is a decent economic reason, like a sudden spike in oil prices, to make the argument that more cuts are needed. We’d fight it in court, but the system favors companies like American so heavily that we can’t afford the risk. There is a better option and it is the LBFO.

If we reject the LBFO, and the Court grants the Company’s motion, our contractual status will closely resemble our Agents’. If we reject the LBFO, and the Company exits bankruptcy, we will be without a contract, without an agreement, and living under implemented language.

More to the point, we all know how effectively management dragged their feet during negotiations for the four years leading up to bankruptcy. Count on this behavior continuing as they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. To make matters worse, although we were once at the top of the National Mediation Board’s priority list, we have now been bypassed by other airlines’ labor groups and their negotiations.

On the other hand, our colleagues at TWU have ratified an agreement similar to our LBFO and no matter what the Company cannot later alter it. Their deal may be concessionary and tough for them to swallow, but it is still a ratified agreement and like our LBFO, it is a whole lot better than the term sheet they were handed in March.

If we reject the LBFO, you and I are at the mercy of the Company. Based upon our history and management’s behavior and actions I say, “Oh, hell no!” to this option and will vote YES for the Last Best Final Offer.


In Unity,

Marcus Gluth
Flight Attendant, IMA
Vice President, APFA
 


Mr Red

Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:48 PM

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All the Flight crews I talk to are NO VOTES


They wouldn't tell you that just to
get you out of their face now would they?

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Mr Red

Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:48 PM

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All the Flight crews I talk to are NO VOTES


They wouldn't tell you that just to
get you out of their face now would they?

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They are more MILITANT!
 


Mr Red
Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:48 PM
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All the Flight crews I talk to are NO VOTES

They wouldn't tell you that just to
get you out of their face now would they?
If I ask you a question concerning your position on the agreements, would you give me an answer to get me out of your face?
 
If I ask you a question concerning your position on the agreements, would you give me an answer to get me out of your face?


I wouldn't, but then I've been told I'm different than most people.