AA and Labor Negotiations-2020

Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by Eagle, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. swamt

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    I knew you would finally get it. I am proud of you NY'er!!!

    Of course they have to sell, sell, sell. No one really WANTS to buy it, therefore they will have to work hard at selling it. Pretty sad when they are recommending it, but they still have to get out there and work their a$$es off in order to sell it to the membership.
     
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  2. CremaDiLimone

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    you have every right to vote 'yes'.

    i disagree about the lack of wages & bonus for fleet are due to profit sharing. AMTs and stores prove my argument.

    lack of wages and bonus for fleet stem from something else covered here.
     
  3. Talos

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    That fool damaged the situation with his ignorance. His photo with the bus drivers speaks 1000 words. For him to shoot his mouth about an ILC is actually funny considering his role in preventing it.
     
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  4. V.O. Reason

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    The LUS insurance is a big part yes, forgot that part
     
  5. 1AA

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    Here is the method the association used to calculate the AA vs US health insurance plans.
    Satire of course, or is it? Uhmmmm?

     
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  6. NYer

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    Why in the world would it bother me that someone didn't lose their medical or their positions?

    I thought they'd lose their medical sooner, rather than having sunset dates but to outright call for them to lose it simply because I don't have it isn't in my DNA.
     
  7. NYer

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    Oh please. The Company "supposal" had 3% above DL and the 5% PS pool...We end up even with Delta and a 10% PS pool.

    It's really simple.
     
  8. NYer

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    We'll never know "if" or "what."
     
  9. 1AA

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    Vote Yes and save the association from the lawsuit. That's my opinion.
    The association will show good faith to the company by recommending a YES vote to the membership.
    We will see what happens after the votes are counted and probably will have a JCBA but not a ILC as promised.
     
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  11. Duke787

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    #1601 Duke787, Feb 6, 2020
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    Time to sign an AMFA card, one union one voice........thats what the rhetoric use to be from the TWU when talking of FSCs and AMTs together.
     
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  12. Duke787

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    I believe we should vote this TA in, as it has been proven under the TWU representation the mechs of AA will not get the representation we deserve. The 2010 TA was not a great deal and it was voted down to make a point, well that point has cost us in excess of $65k each and AA was given whatever concessions they wanted anyway for free.

    I'm guessing we would be put on hold again if we turn down the TA, while the APA and APFA negotiate their contracts which according to history will take years, Remember it took us 17 years to get this TA. With recession over the horizon, (just a guess because fed lowers interest rates, trillion dollar deficits, high debt, USA will shortly be paying more on debt interest rates then we spend on military, the world shutting off China because of coronavirus) none of that is positive for the economy......anyway we would be negotiating a contract in that environment.

    I choose to look at this way, what's in my wallet and how does it effect me, and be happy for IAM guys that they keep their beloved healthcare for 5 years. Remember the association wasn't fighting for ALL association members to get IAM/USAirways healthcare.

    I'm willing to believe this is the best deal the association negotiators could get from AA. On a positive note, Samuelson had to fight both AA and the IAM, and neither IAM or AA I'm guessing cared if the TWU represented mechs got a contract, as the IAM had everything already and AA had cross utilization with outstanding performance with the majority of mechs being paid like B scalers.
     
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  13. AANOTOK

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    Who would of thought...

    The agreement could also resolve the outstanding issue of whether the unions should pay sanctions to American Airlines Group Inc. (Nasdaq: AAL) for the financial damage their actions caused last summer.

    Before the tentative agreement was announced last week, a hearing in a Fort Worth federal court room was scheduled for Feb. 18 to determine whether the unions should be sanctioned for a work slowdown last summer that caused hundreds of flight cancellations and long delays for American.

    But after the tentative contract agreement was announced, the hearing was pushed back to May 11. That extra time leaves room for the issue potentially to be resolved, said a labor expert.

    https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/...nes-sanctions-delay.html?ana=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
     
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  14. dfw gen

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    the lawsuit has been delayed until May.....
     
  15. V.O. Reason

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    In other words vote no and turn down the offer and the lawsuit will be in play.
    I’m sure that’s just about what was said last week in the room when the AIP was agreed to
     
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