AA and Labor Negotiations-2020

Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by Eagle, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. Duke787

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    didnt Tulsa say that we were very close to a deal 18 months ago? So by that reasoning we are roughly 24 months out. Pay and scope seem like items that are a lot harder to negotiate then bulletin boards. Hope that info is accurate though.

    On the positive side, at least we are past the halfway mark. It shouldn’t take 4 years to negotiate those two items.
     
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  2. NYer

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    Nothing. That won't be killed by a JCBA.

    That will be killed with a permanent Permanent Injunction agreement.

    They keep repeating how that situation can never happen again.
     
  3. swamt

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    I know it was a joke ATD. Mine was too and a jab at Timmy's misinformation he keeps spreading.
     
  4. swamt

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    Southwest Pilots showed up in support. Would have been nice if Pilots would have invited Mechs and F/A's to join in as well.

    Good point. Never before (I think) have they "posted" an update during nego's. Could very well be a positive. However, still a few, 3 or more items left, don't see a conclusion in these current nego's as they always seem to drag out these last 3-5 biggies for months upon months. Don't get too excited to just get really disappointed.
     
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  5. swamt

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    You know my quotes of the past. I still say you guys will not be happy come T/A day and it's all released. Said it from the get go.
     
  6. swamt

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    Someone has posted it's been 4 years and 230 some odd days, that's way closer to 5 years, I really think you guys may take the same time frame we did. Yes an offer might come out to vote on but what if it's voted down? Then, just like us another year to get a second offer, bam 6.5 years until you will "see" monies from your new contract. Same exact playbook as SWA used, identacle.
     
  7. swamt

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    VO\, what part do you disagree with? Was I wrong on the update in the middle of nego's?
     
  8. V.O. Reason

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    Updating during the negotiations is a good sign but may be only because there have been so many complaints about no info.
    However I do believe they are close and they are under pressure to bring back an AIP to vote on.
    Maint might very well vote it down but fleet will not. At this point though unless the agreement is just so bad an unacceptable I believe all will vote for whatever comes out.
    I’m not optimistic we will get one this week but am a bit more hopeful than I’ve been in the past.
     
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    You could say this with every contract since '89, and every contract from now on... This just in, water is wet.
     
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  10. 1AA

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    4 years and 226 days as of this posting.
     
  11. lost luggage

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    Everyone is expecting big news today . But I’m sure we’ll be disappointed as usual
     
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  12. V.O. Reason

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    Doubtful
     
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  13. dfw gen

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    i agree update during the week is unusual. do they worry about complaints about no info up to now? no. why would they start now? are they worried about competition probably. are they close? they are closer every week allegedly.
    do i believe them? no.
     
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  14. UPNAWAY

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    The Association needs to agree to a TA Today and bring it up for an immediate vote. Things could go south in a hurry of this virus is half as bad as it seems.
     
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    You will only be disappointed if you expect big news.
     
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