Aircraft maint issues

Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by conehead777, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. WeAAsles

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    Buck the “majority” would be over 6000 people and you’re not their spokesperson anymore than anyone speaks for me either unless I authorize them too.

    If you ever do change Representation then you can finally say that it was the will of the majority that spoke.

    Before then though not quite.
     
  2. WeAAsles

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    So Buck are you 100% sure it’s not people like Matt here who don’t speak for the majority?

    9 times out of 10 the majority is silent.
     
  3. MetalMover

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    Matt, we are already coming across as disorganized. Thanks to the ASSociation. Now, in addition to arguing over medical and outsourcing, we have another fight coming up over super seniority.
    To quote a line from the Buffalo Springfield's FOR WHAT ITS WORTH ...........Nobody's right if everybody's wrong!

    I'll say it again. We are already disorganized!
     
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  4. 1AA

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    The company knows we are disorganized. The association knows we are disorganized. The person who sweeps the office floor knows we are disorganized. I'm already hearing that this is not a good time for a card drive. When is it a good time? Just sitting around waiting is not going to improve our situation. We need to make a change and see which direction negotiations will take us. Almost 5 years at UAL. SWA 6 years. We are still under a CBA. September will start the clock towards going after a new record to top SWA and UAL. Can any of us wait that long? Sit and do nothing or stand up and make a change?
     
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  5. B737 driver

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    Ours is still not done, we have our road shows an T/A vote in Sept. So the raises if it passes would be retro back to April 1st. Company and union sent out what our retro pay is. So mine with the retro pay is well over 50k. If you throw inspection in there they are probably over 60k before taxes. The average mechanic depending on time here is 36 K to 46k on the signing bonus. That's a mighty big carrot to people who haven't had a raise in 6 years.
     
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  6. WeAAsles

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  7. B737 driver

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    Weazz our last contract in 2008, AMFA recommend a No vote, because of contracting work out, was only a $3000 signing bonus, and guess what it passed! :)
     
  8. Buck

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    #5513 Buck, Jul 11, 2018
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    There is one thing I know that comments made on any social media site are of opinion until absolute proof.
    The majority can be a play on words meaning a large number participates for all practical purposes.

    How old are you? Are you sure?

     
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  9. Buck

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    I have been doing this for a long time.
     
  10. ALUS78

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    And this time you have a good shot cause it's ripe for the picking
     
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  11. Buck

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    I see another way also. In all of the past card drives the organizers had to go to the mechanic, now once the cards are printed, the organizers can set back and let " majority " delivered get them signed and returned. in a timely manner.
     
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  12. 1986Mekanic

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    Are you saying the authorization cards are going to be mailed peoples houses?
     
  13. Buck

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    No, I did not mean that, where are you?
     
  14. WeAAsles

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    #2May 3, 2018
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    Hello E, been a long time my friend


    Yes, and the mechanics need to send the TWU, IAM, Association, and Fleet Service, and Stock Clerks packing.
    I can't find anyone willing to tap into their 401k savings and fund another card drive.
    Those of us that tried for years only to be opposed my AA management had to spend thousands out of pocket to do what we did. Don't forget we had to file a lawsuit just to be able to distribute union literature on the Tulsa Base. Grrrrrrr

    Now we are old, tired, and don't care enough to put money and time into a drive. Many are just using the shift swap program our UsAir brothers brought to Tulsa. Many have side businesses making more than working here now. AA is a medical plan and the funding cow to get outside businesses going. Not much interest about what's going on inside the walls anymore.

    I would sign and contribute, but I am never going to argue or get into a campaign of persuading mechanics to do what is clearly in their best interest. My coworkers get the representation they deserve!!!

    Anybody got about 10 grand to kick off a drive, contact me. But I am not funding another one.
    I am convinced that the current AA management after all the consolidation now sees the benefits of mechanics being separated from the majority unskilled controlling our destiny. But management also has what they fought to keep for years and also deserve. AA is now the last and only carrier with the Fleet Service Clerks and Mechanics in the same Union. Management has what they fought so hard to keep.
     
  15. bigjets

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    I disagree, might as well get a new union now. It took a couple of decades but TUL is seeing the twu for what it is.

    Right now it gives every indication that the IAM side of the association is slow rolling the negotiations, because the IAM has probabaly the best contract in the induatry. Just another reason that having two unions doesn’t work for ALL the members.

    I will never understand the afl cio decision to stop any kind of vote. What could have been the IAM having the mechanics at Boeing and AA, to this abortion of forced representation where none of its members see the Benefit or pride of being in this association.

    It’s not like the association is accomplishing anything other then efficiently collecting our dues.
     

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