Aircraft maint issues

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  1. WeAAsles

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    American Airlines’ Fraudulent Accusations Against TWU-IAM Are Right Out of Airlines’ Playbook
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    AMFA National

    May 30 · 2 min read
    Statement by AMFA National Director Bret Oestreich

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    Contract negotiations between TWU-IAM and American Airlines have been stagnant for years as a result of American Airlines management’s “must haves” — ending protected work in favor of outsourcing to less skilled foreign international maintenance vendors and demanding headcount reductions.

    We hate seeing another group of expert aviation personnel go through a "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); background-repeat: repeat no-repeat;">similar struggle to what we experienced over the past "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); background-repeat: repeat no-repeat;">six and a half years. The carriers believe they truly do not have to negotiate in good faith, dragging out the negotiation process and asking for unrealistic offsets. They intentionally try to exhaust the workforce enough to roll over and not be rewarded — which is not only corrupt, it’s unlawful.

    It is disturbing and extremely concerning that both American Airlines and Southwest Airlines chose to litigate rather than negotiate. Both airline carriers greatly misunderstand the most fundamental duties and responsibilities of federally licensed airmen to a point at which they spitefully sue their representative body in attempt to suppress their mandated role at the bargaining table.

    These highly skilled men and women are trained professionals who perform their day to day responsibilities as vigilant defenders of safety standards— and the last line of defense — for the flying public. The work performed is crucial and it is past time for it to be respected.

    AMFA supports our TWU-IAM brothers and sisters in their battle, and we stand with them in unity.

    https://medium.com/@AMFANational/am...e-right-out-of-airlines-playbook-8b932216a3d5
     
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  2. MetalMover

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    Too bad AMFA got no support when they struck NWA.
     
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    Yea, AMEN brother. Not one supporting union (correction teamster truckers turned their trucks around and left) at least not one supporting union from on property supported AMFA. In fact they (industrial unions) did the exact opposite and even scabbed the AMFA picket lines to help NWA with their mission to rid NWA of the AMFA union. And this, my friends, is exactly why AMFA ended up being removed from the NWA property. Company and all the other unions worked together to kill AMFA. And now, here we have AMFA supporting all other industrial unions with their current issues. Now, folks, whos the bigger person (union) here??? Get a freakin clue people!!!
     
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  4. ATD

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    A little bird tells me that the Tulsa twu pres and the iam equal signed off on for base to work on usair planes. Currently in Tulsa there is an a/c with the AA bill of work.
    We really going to show the company we are mad...
    You can't fix stupid.
     
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  5. Kev3188

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    There was tons of support for the AMTS at NW. Unfortunately, it was at the local and/or station level(s). Those at the top let their egos get in the way, and we all saw how that turned out.
     
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    Yeah Swampy I can respect the Teamsters for turning their trucks back. But the rest of the industrial unions on Northwest property, might has well been in management.
     
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    Your right. Didn't mean to escape all the men and women who did support the AMFA. My apologies to all them.
    Sorry Kev., just spouting about how the other industrial unions flaunted the scabbing that occured.
     
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    Oh, it was definitely a **** show, but at the same time, there were a few silver linings. IMO, the best way we can all do right by those guys is to take those lessons to heart.

    And you and 737 are right about the Teamsters turning around. In my station, we proposed having the AMTs set up at the entrance to our air freight facility. One, because we had seen the drivers turn around in SEA, but also because the entire ramp staff parked there, and would've refused to cross an actual picket line. In fact, the company had banked on it (but out of fear of confrontation, not solidarity) and staged their security goons there.

    Unfortunately, our AMTs chose to abide by the Airport's rules, and first set up at a far corner of the terminal, and later about 2 miles from the terminal.
     
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  9. WeAAsles

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    The airplane that is LUS, that is being worked in TULE, was not agreed to by the IAM nor the TWU. It was stolen by the company. It was inducted for work in CLT, not a heavy check, so it couldn’t be vendored out and the next thing the plane is ferried to TULE for work. Which is a violation of the IAM CBA, e-mails have been fired off and grievances filed. It was not a deal made by the union to the company.
     
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  10. MetalMover

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    I meant from other unions and the AFL-CIO itself.
     
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    Oh how right you are Kev. We took that lesson learned attitude this last go around with our company, and it worked better in our favor. A perfect example how the times have changed from the usual strike, strike, strike mentality. I never really was a fan of striking, but I did understand why they use to do it back in the days (a long, long time ago), just doesn't work anymore with all the RLA rules now all fully supporting the companies and not the workers. Now days, it's suicidal for anyone other than Pilots (maybe) to strike. Besides that it causes too much chaos for the customers and no matter how soon you get back to regular schedules you still will lose a lot of passengers to other airlines. So it's just stupid now days to do the strike thing IMO. Stay at work and just do what we do everyday and don't fall for the BS the company really wanted us to do, which was to strike. LN even said he working at getting rid of AMFA at SWA as wea ll found out the truth after it was all said and done, but, NOW WE KNOW the rest of the story.
     
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  12. WeAAsles

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    American Airlines says the cancellations are weather-related, according to spokesperson Ross Feinstein:


    Due to severe thunderstorms that impacted North Texas late yesterday evening and earlier this morning, including Dallas Fort Worth International Airport (DFW), five flights from Austin to DFW have been canceled. We encourage our customers to use our mobile app or aa.com for rebooking.

    However one flight attendant with the airline claimed this is due to an ongoing labor dispute between the airline and their mechanics.

    https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/american-airlines-cancellations-leaving-passengers-stranded-at-abia
     
  13. WeAAsles

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    Different times, different circumstances and most importantly different people. And most importantly different people. And most importantly different people.

    The “people” in the Unions this time are coming together for the betterment of all of us unlike the morons (individual thinkers) out there that would rather keep us all fighting each other. Some of those “losers” are still here on this Forums.
     
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    American mechanics best bet stay at work, and don't take shortcuts. And study what we did. Still eat the company food, work the overtime and get paid.
     
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  15. WeAAsles

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    Today, the TWU will participate in an Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing Summit in Washington, D.C. A livestream will be posted at http://www.twu.org/livestream/ from 9am-1pm eastern time.

    Speakers include: Ralph Nader, Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA), former US DOT Inspector General Mary Schiavo and Kevin Mitchell from the Business Travel Coalition. TWU President John Samuelsen will make closing remarks at 12:40.

    Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing Summit
    Presented by the Transport Workers Union
    Organized by Business Travel Coalition


    AGENDA

    WELCOME
    9:00 am - Kevin Mitchell, Business Travel Coalition Chairman

    COMMENTARY
    9:15 am - Representative John Garamendi (D-CA)

    WHITE PAPER & PASSENGER SAFETY BILL OF RIGHTS
    9:30 am - William J. McGee, Consumer Advocate, Journalist

    KEYNOTE ADDRESS & INTERVIEW
    9:45 am

    • Ralph Nader
    • William J. McGee Interview with Ralph Nader
    PANEL DISCUSSION
    10:30 am - Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing

    • Moderators, William J. McGee & Justin Madden
    • Sarah MacLeod, Aeronautical Repair Station Association Executive Director
    • Gary Peterson, Transport Workers Union International Vice President
    • Bret Oestreich, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association National Director
    • Loretta Alkalay, Vaughn College of Aeronautics Professor
    • John Goglia, National Transportation Safety Board Former Board Member
    • Michael Gonzales, Professional Aviation Safety Specialists Vice President
    ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
    11:45 am - Where Do We Go from Here?

    • Moderator, Kevin Mitchell, Business Travel Coalition
    • John Breyault, National Consumers League Vice President
    • Chris Moore, International Brotherhood of Teamsters Chairman of the Aviation Mechanics Coalition
    • Gary Schaible, Transport Workers Union Local 591 President
    • Justin Madden, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association Legislative Affairs Director
    SUMMIT OBSERVATIONS
    12:30 pm - Mary Schiavo, former US DOT Inspector General

    CLOSING REMARKS
    12:40 pm - John Samuelsen, Transport Workers Union International President

    ADJOURN
    12:50 pm - Kevin Mitchell
     

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