Aircraft maint issues

Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by conehead777, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. 1AA

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    Safety takes time because accidents happen fast. I'm not saying stop and take a break every 5 minutes but rushing a job to get it done quickly to make schedule or avoid crew time outs will lead to mistakes and bad judgment calls. This is where an experienced work force thrives. Give us the proper tools and time to do it right.
     
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  2. conehead777

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    Then the company and judge need to sit in the human factors class that we had to Goto in 91-92 .that was mandatory . And it was a course put out by the FAA for all airlines to put there mechanics thru.
     
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  3. conehead777

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    that is what they said in the human factors class we had to go thru in 91-92-93 somewhere in there
     
  4. NYer

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    It's simple. They have documents, postings, even voice recordings that show certain terminology being used. "Long hot summer" ect. They can date those things and connect other dots to show something is happening.

    Then they have statistical arguments of MEL items taking longer to clear, while at the same time less OT and Field Trips being accepted which leads to longer maintenance intervals which lead to late flights or cancellations. They're concentrating on RON and 0700 departures since those have less other issues that can contribute to higher than normal service failures due to maintenance. (weather, crew legality...)

    Then you have statements from mechanics saying they're being pressured to not accept OT or Field Trips by Representatives and other employees.

    Combine all those things and it paints a picture the Judge could interpret as a job action.

    Nowhere is there are any calls or arguments to not write up maintenance issues or not fix them. There is no calls to violate any safety guidelines.

    Simply, the Judge will decide if there is enough for him to declare in injunction to compel everyone to get back to normal, whatever normal was prior to the communications shared as evidence of an alleged job action.

    Normal isn't what you say, it's what you've done...as a collective.
     
  5. NYer

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    No one is arguing to do things faster. Just do them as they were done before, through the normal course.

    Mechanics that want to defend the alleged actuons are going to an extreme defense for an argument no one is making.
     
  6. 1AA

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    Then he should also look at how this new management team ripped apart our maintenance program to bare bones. No QA on B checks as well as no more B checks. Less parts available to properly repair aircraft in a timely manner. Speaking of timely manner we have aircraft on mel's for the duration until the last day. We have aircraft overnighting at maintenance stations that are not being looked at and the ones that are looked at MEL items aren't touched for whatever reason. This leads to delays and cancellations. If guys decide they do not want OT so be it. If guys wont go on a field trip so be it. You will always find a way and some one to get the job done.
    I've never heard the union put out information to the membership to turn down overtime and field trips.
    Maybe at some stations refusals are higher than others. Maybe at some stations the workloads are heavier. Maybe at some stations the manning does not balance with the workloads. Those stations rely on OT 24/7. I get it but AA is partly to blame for how they changed the maintenance program and the work culture. The association isn't helping either. Both unions dont work together in communicating within themselves and the company.
     
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  7. NYer

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    Here you go. This is one piece they've submitted for evidence to their allegations.
     

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    Boy that was intelligent, good thing they weren't planning a bank robbery! :)
     
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    Stupid.jpg
     
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  10. Rogallo

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    And the letter from the FAA (attached) dated June 24th is addressed to Isom, Garcia and Pantoja.

    Guess they don't want to deal with Samuelsen or Peterson either??
     

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    Then my question now is, are they slower than normal? And if so, why?? I would think spring and summer family obligations will slow down some of the mechanics that accept the O/T as a norm as well. You know kids are out of school now. If slower maint is being blamed, could it be that the company (as in our case at SWA) is asking for more and more compliance??? Ours came from the pressure from the FAA to get more compliant in order to get ETOPS qualified so we all complied to get more compliant and that slowed down our regular maint routines a bit as well. Our SVP of maint was screaming "compliance, compliance, compliance" for months. When we did, he got pissed off about the slower maint. times. So just wondering if you guys are experiencing the same????
     
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    Terminology by individuals is not enough. Too grey for courts as any different individuals could very well take it in different ways. It has to be proven...
     
  13. 1AA

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    I guess the FAA have seen GP's You Tube videos of him ranting like a three year old. They also don't want to deal with Sammy boy during the hot summer bloody months.
     
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    In their filing, they compare to the same period last year and the period prior to the postings they referenced as indicators to the calls for the avoidance of voluntary actions, like OT.
     
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    This isn't a murder trial. The burden of proof is nowhere near that level of scrutiny.

    The RLA is in place to protect commerce and air transport. The Association is accused of violating the RLA and an injunction is a call to stop the actions that cause the violation.

    If nothing is happening, then an injunction harms no one.

    If something MIGHT be happening an injunction should stop it.

    Seems like a simple choice. The threshold for evidence is very low.
     

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