I do believe so, years back before 2009. The teamsters pulled a fast one on them too promising the world but producing NOTHING that was promised. Just like they did over at United. Still waiting on United to pull that very same trigger and get AMFA back in there. Also will fully support another AA drive for AMFA big time. The teamsters will be devastated if AMFA is successful yet again over a previously teamster represented carrier, so we will see the typical teamster fiasco all over again at Horizon (QX). Just remember AMFA doesn't raid, it has always been a grass roots efforts by the membership that brought AMFA in.