Aircraft maint issues

Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by conehead777, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. swamt

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    I do believe so, years back before 2009. The teamsters pulled a fast one on them too promising the world but producing NOTHING that was promised. Just like they did over at United. Still waiting on United to pull that very same trigger and get AMFA back in there. Also will fully support another AA drive for AMFA big time. The teamsters will be devastated if AMFA is successful yet again over a previously teamster represented carrier, so we will see the typical teamster fiasco all over again at Horizon (QX). Just remember AMFA doesn't raid, it has always been a grass roots efforts by the membership that brought AMFA in.
     
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    Hell, we will openly accept a raid. Talk to Brett.
     
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  3. B737 driver

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    He would be happy to help. He is up in Washington D.C. Today for the Aviation Safety meeting.
     
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  4. dfw gen

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    please take us....
     
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  5. swamt

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    I will Vort. Trust me I will...
     
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  6. swamt

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    Would love to have you. And we will, accept you guys. Let's all work towards that goal.
     
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  7. dfw gen

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    Ill work my station for cards
     
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  8. swamt

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    Good.
    I honestly think with the final results in from the SWA and ALK nego's and the recent rather quickly card drive at Horizon for an AMFA vote will change some fence sitters minds. we were successful in saving all our scope, and that was huge for what they were originally asking. And BTW, the director that was ram rodding that huge scope change was quickly moved out of maint and over into training dept after his failures with the new maint program that also helped stall out nego's for almost 7 years.
    Good luck fellas, and I hope AMFA National will reach out and help out as much as they can. All nego's are over. They are now focussing on Horizon vote at hand. Pretty sure they could make a little extra time for you mechanics at AA. Be Prepared for anything brother, ANYTHING!!! They will come after you guys again.
     
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  9. swamt

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  10. 1AA

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    We are at our best when we are disappointed. Haven't you figured that out by now? If my kid decided to have a career at AA in aviation and be represented by the TWU, the day he retired the TWU will still be on the property.
     
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  11. B737 driver

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    1AA if United can kick out the IAM, bring in AMFA, kick out AMFA, bring in Teamsters, which they are not really happy with, you guys can change! :)
     
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  12. B737 driver

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    Well said such a joy we can talk as mechanics and former military, without the bullshit artist, cluttering up the forums! :)
     
  13. 1AA

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    UAL is not AA.
    SWA is not AA.
    AA guys are a different breed.
    I can't figure them out. We get screwed over and over. When a drive is going the excuses for not signing are pathetic.
    It's not a good time.
    We are in negotiations.
    I'll sign after we get a contract.
    We are close to a deal, signing a card will delay negotiations.
    We will lose our contract and have to start over again.
    Our contract will become voided if we change unions because the TWU negotiated it.
    Who does AMFA represent?
    AMFA screwed up at NWA.
    AMP represents nobody.
    AMP has no money.
    All negotiations will stop and we will start from scratch.

    Then you try title 2 guys.
    AMFA wants to get rid of us.
    AMP is for Aircraft Maintenance only. We will be gone.
    The excuses go on and on.

    This last AMP drive we had holdouts from stations that supported changes in representation.

    We have many that just want a buyout package so they can leave with some cash. You tell them about a card drive and they will tell you it will delay my early out package.
    The IAM side just wont sign cards.
    Do the math without having exact numbers you can see that without title 2 and the IAM guys we wont have enough support. We all complain about how we are getting screwed but won't make an effort to stop the screwing and better ourselves.
     
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  14. swamt

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    Agree. The teamsters did the same to united as they did with Horizon. BS'ed their way in with no promises materializing. I also look for United to soon move back to AMFA. UAL mechanics need to ask themselves, where's that promised pension? Where's that promised ILC?? Where's that promised highest pay in the airlines for mechanics??? Etc...

    Sure is. So much nicer.
     
  15. swamt

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    Well, I still hope it doesn't stop you from trying.
     

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