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Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by conehead777, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. NYer

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    By the NMB getting rid of the "straw man," do you guys think you can get 50% of Members to write-in their preferred choice? And would you risk not being represented for two years until there is another vote?
     
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  2. dfw gen

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    I'm curious what is the new straw man rule?
     
  3. NYer

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    Typically, a second option (straw man) was included in the choices on a representational vote. Like TWU, AMFA (the straw man), no union & write-in

    The new rules are set to eliminate the straw man and only include the incumbent union, no union and a write-in option.

    Whatever the decision, another vote couldn't take place for 2 years.
     
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  4. Vortilon

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    Yes, since contracts never expire - they simply become amendable. We would self enforce.
     
  5. 1986Mekanic

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    NYer is just another ramper trying to give all the reasons why we shouldn't leave, if a drive were to occur and gain traction, the rhetoric would be x1000 by a lot more then just him.
     
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  6. 1AA

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    You mean self help?
    If so then self help is allowed after both parties are released from negotiations by the NMB. We are no where near that point and probably won't get there for a while.
     
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  7. conehead777

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    Well In my opinion we are not being represented now by the association. I’ll take my chances to get AMFA
     
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  8. NYer

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    It doesn't work that way, but I'd guess you wouldn't agree.
     
  9. NYer

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    If you read the posts you'll see it was a question on how'd you guys would handle it address the change. Someone else asked what the changes were and it was explained.

    You guys want to make a move, go ahead. Just wondering how you would handle the new changes and if it was worth the risk as opposed to the current process.
     
  10. NYer

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    Understand you want to make the move. The question is, do you think you can get 50% of the voting Members to write in AMFA since the new rules would give you that option as an alternative vote. .

    The choices would be: Association, no union & write-in. If 50% of the Members don't write in AMFA, then you'll be stuck with the choice that wins for two years before you can vote again.
     
  11. 1AA

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    #8171 1AA, Jul 20, 2019
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    Assuming the new rules will go into effect. They are still discussing them and most unions are against the proposed changes the NMB wants to make.

    https://www.afacwa.org/nmb_decertification


    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily...-union-decertification-eased-under-proposal-1
     
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  12. NYer

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    Sure the unions are against it. They had their say in April and it's now going to DC for the next phase.

    If finalized, what are the thoughts? It is probable to get 50% to write in the union of choice? What if no union wins?
     
  13. Rogallo

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    I guess we would lose the piss poor representation we currently have! :)
     
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  14. NYer

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    That's a given.

    Is it possible to get 50% of Members to write-in the replacement of choice? Is the "no union" choice preferred to the Association?
     
  15. Rogallo

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    Anything's possible. But highly unlikely.

    Remember, you can't fix stupid. That's why we're in this situation.

    In my opinion, yes, I would prefer "no union" to this abominable Association.
     
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