The disappointment is pretty wide spread on the LAA side. You knew it would be difficult to negotiate a deal with the 2 unions having large differences, but we at LAA have taken it on the chin for a good while now. You just get a feeling that the Association is not leveling with the members. The extremely sour picture that negotiations has portrayed makes you wonder if some fresh faces are required to get a deal done.Samuelson telling Isom we would take the company down was really pretty foolish. And the company could have stepped up a long time ago and got a deal.