American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

Discussion in 'American Airlines' started by Buck, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. La Li Lu Le Lo

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    You would fit right in with those globalist/socialist.

    Have fun dealing with the northern Africans and Middle Eastern "migrants" murdering, assaulting, raping, and subjugating the countries of the EU while their treasonous government turns a blind eye and the media churns out leftist propaganda.

    Perhaps you and that traitor Angela Merkel can go play golf. You two can be BFF's.

    I wish you would leave the United States. It's so obvious you hate this country. I hope you find your socialist "paradise" and enjoy all it has to offer when and if you get to the "greener" side of the fence.

    The fact the first thing that comes to your mind if you come into money is leaving the United States is pretty telling.




    UNIONism used to be about negotiating better and safer working conditions while maintaining a healthy and profitable company. Now UNIONism is, how many people do I have under me to act as a buffer between myself and unemployment.

    If you truly value UNION ideals you should worry more about maximizing pay and bettering working conditions and less about how many lower seniority people (most likely doing the actual work while you screw off all day making forum posts) have to get hit before it affects your little world.

    That is why I can't stand you WeAAsles. For all your UNION cheerleading at the end of the day you are a self-centered, self-serving, hypocrite.
     
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  2. 1986Mekanic

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    That's true, I may be a dreamer, but at least I'm not a giver upper...
     
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  3. MetalMover

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    Call it what you will. I call it being realistic.
     
  4. Kev3188

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    Correct. AS only staffs the ramp in Alaska. They have cargo employees in SEA, but that's just about it for the lower 48 -and includes hubs in SEA & PDX, and large operations in California.

    Given that they now have their own (IAM repped) in-house ground handling company, don't look for that to change any time soon.
     
  5. Kev3188

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    It still can be; don't give up hope.

    +1
     
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  6. La Li Lu Le Lo

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    Thank you Kev3188.

    I hope the UNION membership returns to the foundations UNIONs were built on one day.
     
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  7. JREwing

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    If the association has never been formed, we would have already had a contact. It wouldn't have mattered if we were all IAM or TWU, it would've been settled. Since Alaska repented employee numbers are so small AND they are members of a union instead of an ass. I wouldn't compare them to us at all.
     
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  8. Tim Nelson

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    i think in an almost completely different perspective. I believe working people realize they need unions just as much today as yesterday, but rather many unions have not adapted to a changing culture.
    True, technology has exposed union corruption on social media and online like never before, many unions still cant figure out that membership participation is the lifeblood and that technology is your friend. Electronic voting, virtual union meetings, etc.
     
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  9. Bin Stretcher

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    The Association has nothing to do with it.
    All Negotiations are done between a company and a bargaining agent. It shouldn't matter if we had a single union at all. The problem would still exist as the company deliberately stalls negotiations. The company is saving money each and every day they stall. It simply would not matter who they are bargaining against.
    They will continue to stall until they are forced into finally having to make a move.
     
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  10. Tim Nelson

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    This is even worse than the United agreement.
    The iam put in a cinderella date that lifts all scope 2 years after the ammendable date. They did this with the alaska ramp, and then all rampers got contracted out.
    Doesnt matter with the iam because of their arrangement with the iam to dump these jobs to the iam anyways at McGee Air Services.
     
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  11. Kev3188

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    Tim--

    I actually agree with all of that as well. Some unions (and labor leaders) have figured out how to operate/thrive in the 21st century, while others have not.
     
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  12. swamt

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    You have a valid point. In our case we sent in all new faces on the unions side except for 2 regulars. On the co. side they changed their entire team except for 2 then one of them was removed as well, and I even think the final one was also removed but not positive. So basically all new co side NC and more than 50% new union NC. Then of course the Newest arrival on the co. side NC, Mr. Kinder with full power to get er done and he did.
    On a short note: I think you are correct, maybe some new fresh faces would help move things along, it worked in our case, but changes on both sides.
     
  13. swamt

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    NO! They don't know weezal. You know why?? Because this membership is left in the dark all the time with no real info from the asso. with updates about nego!!! Geez...
     
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  14. V.O. Reason

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    I don’t agree having this association has created having too many different voices and opinions negotiating the contracts with a single union a lot of those issues would not exist and we would have had an agreement a year ago
     
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  15. swamt

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    Those forces are the IAM side of this two sided fiasco asso. representing you guys.
     

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