I would say at least a year going by the playbook they are playing. This is where the tudes need to change within NC and asso. leadership and I mean quickly. If you all really want a vote, then the majority needs to flood the asso. with pressure to vote and I mean big pressure, if the company sees this from the membership I am sure they would help if they can. Otherwise I see the IAM getting their way and put on further ice just as we all just saw the immediate cancelation of 3 day meetings. The co. has a planned movement coming soon. What that movement is, is not clear as of yet, but I would be willing to say they have a plan to get the proposal out to the members. That is all the company wants as did SWA, and SWA did what they had to, to get the first T/A out for a vote. AA wants the same I do believe. If the membership would also apply pressure you guys may get a chance to vote. If the asso refuses to do so, then right now would be the time for a card drive. For one that would more than like give enough pressure for a vote, then as soon as the vote is done, fire them, by pulling the trigger, and bring in the new union.