American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

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  1. WeAAsles

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    Now you’re telling me that the Company is getting rid of Profit Sharing too those greedy Beasterderds!!!!!!

    Is that you Uncle Freddy?

    (WARNING STRONG LANGUAGE)

    See YouTube Jerky Boys Uncle Freddy.
     
  2. Tim Nelson

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    i know all about Uncle Freddy. I did the Uncle Freddy remix on the Airtrain campaign to a convention theme.
     
  3. CremaDiLimone

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    because you always posted the price of oil it as it was rising...to underscore your personal point that the ass. failed and we were going into double-doo-doo with rising oil.

    when parker believes that the shale oil revolution will mean billions more in profits, you can stop posting the price of rising oil.

    as it was rising, it was only a matter of time before the shale people started rocking and rolling.
     
  4. CremaDiLimone

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    if you are correct, than high or low oil doesn't matter. we aren't getting anything for this stingy company.

    so why post rising oil prices like you did? according to you, it doesn't matter.
     
  5. Tim Nelson

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    Imo this company is too greedy to pass along extra profits thru future proposals.
    But the economy does matter. If it falls or the company misses projections then our offer may be less.
     
  6. WeAAsles

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    Tim did you miss this posting from yesterday? I’m ready to join you in pushing those morons to give us a vote but I need you to clear up these things for me first?

    How much exactly will I be making in wages on DOS?
    What will be the percentage yearly increases?
    Will it be a 5 year deal and will we have any early openers?
    Will there be an industry reset if Delta or United leapfrog us?
    How much will my Medical be and what is the percentage the Company can raise it yearly?
    Will the Association be able to audit the Company’s medical expenditures?
    What will the Part Time cap be?
    Will I be Full Time protected in my City?
    Did the Company agree to Penalty Hours or Easy hours?
    What about the language as far as when we go to lunch?
    Can I still walk for lunch on my 6th hour?
    What will the Scope be like as far as Station Staffing?

    Tim please just make this easier and post a PDF with all the details and I’ll be ready to sign on the dotted line at the end of the week.
     
  7. WeAAsles

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    Hey Crema check this out. More Oil news out one hour ago. A Billion barrels of Oil in the Gulf of Mexico.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/08/bp-just-discovered-a-billion-barrels-of-oil-in-gulf-of-mexico.html
     
  8. WeAAsles

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    #11228 WeAAsles, Jan 8, 2019
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    Fox Business. November 26, 2017. Interviewing Robert Isom.

    Q: If oil goes back to $100 a barrel, can you raise fares and fees quickly enough to cover your costs?

    A: As (CEO) Doug (Parker) has said, we do think that we're going to make money in the upcycles and the downcycles as well. Ultimately that does mean having a business that is capable of recouping its costs.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...an-airlines-president-takes-the-long-view.amp
     
  9. WeAAsles

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    January 2015. USA Today.

    "We're going to continue operating American as though oil was still above $100 a barrel,"

    American Airlines Group CEO Doug Parker said.
     
  10. WeAAsles

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    From Seeking Alpha last week.

    “Average hourly earnings rose 0.4 percent in December, pushing the 12-month change to 3.2 percent. AHE growth has been very slow compared to previous cycles, especially given the low unemployment rate, but has been accelerating recently. That is good news for employees but could be a problem for employers.

    Combining payrolls with hourly earnings and hours worked, the index of aggregate weekly payrolls rose 0.9 percent in December and 5.2 percent from a year ago (see chart). This index is a good proxy for take-home pay and has posted relatively steady year-over-year gains in the 3 to 5 percent range since 2010, but has now been above 5 percent for 7 of the last 10 months. Continued gains in the aggregate-payrolls index is a positive sign for consumer income and spending, supporting continued economic expansion”
     
  11. Tim Nelson

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    so you are saying that cheaper oil is going to make management grow a heart after we already blew our load? Really?
     
  12. WeAAsles

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    I’ll repeat it to you again. I could care less if anyone in Management has a heart when it comes to our Negotiations.

    I’m just refuting your doom and gloom scenarios is all.

    How much exactly will I be making in wages on DOS?
    What will be the percentage yearly increases?
    Will it be a 5 year deal and will we have any early openers?
    Will there be an industry reset if Delta or United leapfrog us?
    How much will my Medical be and what is the percentage the Company can raise it yearly?
    Will the Association be able to audit the Company’s medical expenditures?
    What will the Part Time cap be?
    Will I be Full Time protected in my City?
    Did the Company agree to Penalty Hours or Easy hours?
    What about the language as far as when we go to lunch?
    Can I still walk for lunch on my 6th hour?
    What will the Scope be like as far as Station Staffing?
     
  13. dfw gen

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    There will not be a contract untill the iam's representation is threatened or until the company stalls long enough for the mediators declare an impasse and we say thank you. And alex swallows and sito smiles.
     
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  14. Tim Nelson

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    not sure what you are saying but, no, its not gloom and doom but a contract that has a value of 10% over United.
    The only problem that i see is alex possibly allowing "Bad Alex" to come back. We need "Good Alex". No more paranoid tin foil tantrums.
     
  15. WeAAsles

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    The Mediators will never declare an impasse. And tell me when and who is planning to threaten the IAM’s Representation?

    The IBT tried that and lost, AMFA only got 8 write in’s, TWU zero and the seed of AMP didn’t even break through the shell much less poke through the dirt and show any green.

    Last posting October 7 with 1 comment 13 weeks ago?

    https://m.facebook.com/AMP.AA.2010/

    Besides I find it really hard to believe that you believe the TWU would accept the Scope losses that you think aren’t the main major sticking point in your Class and Craft especially. They won’t.
     

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