American/JetBlue Merger

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  1. American6

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    American Airlines is an airline that is in bankruptcy and is in danger of ceasing operations. It needs to find a merger partner. What should it be Alaska, US Airways? But the best partner would be JetBlue Airways. The reason is that you can go to the same places especially the Carribean with both airlines out of JFK. So they look like good merging partners. Mergers help airlines prevent ceasing operations, well one will cease anyway but it becomes part of the other airline. JetBlue would cease and American would acquire it. All American should do is take advantage of that. If it is going to merge,it shouldn't tear down on too many of JetBlue's routes. American could dump Long Beach (since it has a hub in nearby LAX) and Newburgh and reduce Fort Lauderdale from a hub to a non-hub because American already has it's third largest hub in noearby Miami International Airport. It would operate out of Fort Lauderdale the same as today. American could also save lots of money on replacing it's fleet too. American can take advantage of JetBlue's Embraer aircraft to replace the older McDonnel Douglas aircraft. American will already have a replacement aircraft and would save money if acquiring JetBlue. Plus, American can add hubs in Orlando and Boston. American would retain it's livery and name but add JetBlue's TVs. American can have better competition against Delta and United if merged with JetBlue. Plus, American would be able to expand the JFK hub. Instead of operating out of one terminal, it can operate out of not even 2 but 3 terminals. Those are Terminal 5, a newly built and refurbished Terminal 6 and it's current terminal, 8. Terminals 5 & 6 would handle all domestic and Canadian flights and termina 8 would handle all international flights (except Canada). Plus the concourse B at terminal 8 can slightly be extended to the right for a few more aircraft slots. With the acquisition of JetBlue, American can take over United Airlines as the biggest airline out of any New York airport and American will have better money.
     
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  2. FWAAA

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    AA is not currently in danger of ceasing operations.

    Some of us have been posting here for a while that AA should acquire B6 once AA trims its expenses down to B6 levels.
     
  3. American6

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    Thanks for telling me. But American is in bankruptcy though.
     
  4. IORFA

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    So tell us how many airlines out of the last 10 airline bankruptcy's went out of business completely? Or as you say ceased operations? Are you from the US, or an age where you are unable to drink legally? Only reason I ask, is that your question makes it seem like you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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  5. RDU Jetblast

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    people express
    Eastern airlines
    Midway Airlines
    Pan Am-sold at auction. It was on life support and the plug was about to be pulled.

    Which reminds me of the irony in the news of late. Carl Ichan of TWA and Bob Crandall teamed up to bid up the price for Pan Am forever financially crippling Delta and now there is talk of Delta buyin AA which bought TWA

    What WHERE the last ten bancruptcies?
     
  6. Buck

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    So don't be a D**K and educate him, just as many have educated me on these boards.
     
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  7. 1AA

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    American Airlines is currently in Bankruptcy.
    American Airlines is NOT Bankrupt.

    For all of us here who post and read that are employed by American Airlines knows this.
    Others or outsiders are clueless when they make statements referencing liquidation and necessary mergers to survive.
     
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  8. wings396

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    FWIW, PE didn't go out of business. They were merged into CO, thus the EWR hub....
     
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  9. xUT

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    Now you are just being funny... :lol:
    Being the biggest does not equate into being the most profitable (at least with airlines).

    B) xUT
     
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  10. 700UW

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    I seriously doubt any of those mentioned were the last ten.

    American
    United
    Delta
    US Airways (twice)

    More info
     
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  11. etops1

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    Why anyone is taking this thread starter serious is beyond me.
     
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  12. AAviator

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    Maybe because the possibility of an AA B6 combination has a WOW factor, whereas as the possibility of an AA LCC combination has an Ewwww factor.

    The majority of B6 fits nicely with AA, (unlike LCC) and such a combination would allow a post BK AA to have substantially LESS debt than a AA/LCC combination.

    Maybe thats why. :)
     
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  13. AAviator

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    LH just sold off BMI to BA. With UAL and CAL walking down the aisle, LH's position is now solidified in the NYC market. Its 19% ownership in B6 is of no shareholder value and will be sold off.. I suspect they still have BA on speed dial.

    Overall, a good first post. Thanks for joining our slice of heaven! :D :p B)
     
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  14. FWAAA

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    IMO, there's no need to be mean to the OP.

    What would B6 bring to AA? A return of a lot of passengers (and revenue) that AA has lost to B6 over the last decade. Plus a lot of JFK slots. A big BOS footprint and a return of a lot of SJU and other Caribbean traffic.

    With DL finally introducing a form of Economy Plus (matching UA) and AA hinting at it in the announcement of the interior configuration of the new 777-323s, B6 interiors and AA interiors need not be all that different. B6 has slightly more legroom than AA in all coach seats (shades of MRTC) and sells some forward seats that have lots and lots of legroom (B6 version of F and even more roomy than UA's E+). B6 does have the live TV - dunno how financially viable that really is.

    Boston? Before the "cornerstone" strategy, AA was long been a big airline in BOS and has long flown from BOS to LON and CDG. Over the last decade, of course, AA has retreated from BOS due to the very low fares at B6. JAL is going to fly BOS-NRT later this year and it might make sense for AA to become larger again in BOS.

    Acquire B6 and eliminate a low-fare competitor that possesses some valuable assets.
     
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    I thought it had been decreed that the most exalted Delta Airlines would pluck any desirable assets from AA and cast aside the empty husk for the other hyenas to squabble over?
     
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  16. Frank Szabo

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    ... he hasn't been around for a while ...
     
  17. eolesen

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    With all the senior management changes at Jetblue in the past five years, it's not unthinkable for an AA/B6 deal.

    Learn your history, guys... First, PE never declared bankruptcy, and second, didn't go out of business. They were merged (stapled) into CO in 1987 along with New York Air, but PE was never put into bankruptcy. Lorenzo and crew kept it out of the second CO bankruptcy, and it was actually the corporate successor when they restructured.

    Missing from your list are Aloha Airlines and American Trans Air. Both ceased operations and liquidated somewhat recently. Then there's the less recent guys like Independence Air, Air South, Great Plains, Access Air, Vanguard, National v2, Midway v2, Pan Am v2, Legend, Kiwi, Altair, McClain's, MGM, Braniff v2, Braniff v3 and Pan Am v3.

    I'm probably forgetting a few.

    Moral of the story... airlines with less than 100 planes tend to go away in bankruptcy; the larger ones live to fly another day.
     
  18. Barfbag

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    American would have never stayed in the international radar had not Crandall bought the LHR routes from Icahn aka TWA. Maybe Crandall will talk to Uncle Carl ( worth 18B ) once more and AMR comes out of BK and buys USair, and B6 no merger, just both acquisitions. Since we're all fantasizing. Or even better AMR buys Delta with Crandall at the helm.. Hey no body knows...anything here.
    WHAT ABOUT FRANK LORENZO BUYING B6 ????
     
  19. 787nightmare

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    I don't think you'll see Frankie Wankie in the airline industry anymore...
     
  20. MCI transplant

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    <_< -------- But Uncle Carl, that might be another story!
     

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