Chief Justice JOHN ROBERTS / S C O T U S

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  1. KCFlyer

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    Or....it could be that we reside in one of those flyover states and our vote for president would never count anyways. Hillary got 35% of the vote. In order for a Democratic challenger to win the electoral vote in my state, Democrats need to get 133,000 voters to vote for them. The last democrat to win the electoral vote in Kanas was LBJ.
     
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    Sorry, Insp4, I just saw this post of yours asking me the burning question of the new decade. My answer...I haven't the vaguest idea. You are asking the guy who was watching the 2016 Republican convention on TV and when the Presidential nomination went to Donald Trump, I called a friend of mine and said, "Well, the Republicans have just elected the first female President (Hillary)!"

    I know who I would have liked seeing get the Democratic Pres. and Vice-Pres nominations, but neither of my candidates is still in the race. Typical. Evidently my support is the Kiss of Death.:rolleyes:
     
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    Well, as crazy as it might seem, it looks like Crazy Burny may get the nomination! ....If that were to happen, I'm wondering if Bears and K.C. would be as enthusiastic in backing them as they are about opposing Trump?
     
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    Don't think so. As many followers as he has and the money he has raised, I still think that when push comes to shove the public will vote for a younger person. I'm not even sure that Joe B would be the candidate. As wild as it seems, Buttegieg may become the front-runner--especially if Bernie has another health episode.
     
  5. KCFlyer

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    What about Yang?
     
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    As a Gen X'er, I'm looking to vote for someone that doesn't look like one of my grandparents.

    He's got more support than I think people realize.
     
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    #22 jimntx, Jan 7, 2020
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    I'll be honest with you. Yang does not yet register in my elderly brain as a candidate. I need more information about him. But, Bloomberg and Steyer (despite their personal fortunes to spend however they like) also do not seen like viable candidates to me. There's something "not right" about coming into a political race after some of the candidates have been eliminated. It's like they have something to hide that they think will not have time to emerge before the election. (And, we have quite enough of hidden information to deal with that affects already declared candidates, thank you.)

    If he had come into the race sooner, I would have been very interested in Tom Steyer.
     
  8. KCFlyer

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    Thanks. My son-in-law (a millenial) is very interested in Yang as he is the only candidate on either side that addresses the fact that jobs are being automated away...and looks at what future generations will do for a living.
     
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    So what is Yang's solution to the job automation problem? There is no doubt that jobs--particularly assembly type jobs--will continue to be eliminated as IT continues to become more sophisticated. And, a machine that can run 24 hours/day without stopping does not require vacation time, insurance benefits or a pension. The cost figures are not in favor of the living assembler.

    I was in Best Buy last week and they had stacks of Smart TVs on clearance post-Christmas sales. I could not believe the prices. Samsung 65 inch screens with ability to stream any and all sources, such as Netflix, Youtube, etc. and all for $255!!!!! There is no way they could afford to sell at those prices with a human assembler at every step. Of course these had some out of date technology. The latest and greatest QLED (whatever in the hell that means) TVs ranged in price from $1200 to $1500.
     
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    That's one reason for the basic income. We are most likely going to move to a much more entrepreneurial economy. The basic income is to allow people to subsist while they work on their ideas. Sounds a little far-fetched, but robots are building cars..artificial intelligence is working customer service desks, cars and trucks are on the verge of becoming self driving, computers are programming other computers. In due time they might be able to use artificial intelligence to replace investment bankers. But all the other candidates on both sides will talk "jobs, jobs, jobs". But they have no ideas about what those jobs will be. Sure....it's not going to happen in the next couple of years, but a millennial has about 30 or 40 years ahead of them before they can think of retirement. If our "long term view" is just the next 5 years, we will find ourselves behind the 8 ball.

    And I know the general response will be "typical millenial...wants to be paid to do nothing". The only thing I can say to that is - In my 62 years I've never found anyone who was satisfied with $12k per year.
     
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    Know or have met quite a number who 'got over' and subsist on $700 a month SSI, Food Stamps ($200 a head), Medicaid, Liheap, subsidized housing. And now a basic income....LOL
     
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    Do they outnumber the ones who work? When jobs are automated away, what is any candidate suggesting to address that?
     
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    Do you mean candidates other than Yang? If so, I think the answer is none. I haven't heard it put forth as an issue by either side. I agree that "waiting to see what happens" is not a smart strategy. That would result in a huge government handout program just to keep the unemployed from starving to death (a la the programs of the Great Depression).

    Attention:Anti-Big Government Politicians! Start practicing swallowing your bombastic statements when the rescue program ends up being larger than the ACA. Your craw may not be able to get all of them in one swallow. Won't it be fun when a Republican President has to sign the rescue program into law?
     
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    A Republican won't. They will gladly sit back as millions starve and boast that the number of people on food stamps is at an all time low.
     
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    Guess you didn't realize what the long term extended unemployment and dropping asset tests for food stamps was all about. didn't see any long lines at the soup kitchens during the most recent depression, 'er I mean recession under Obama, did you?
     

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