Delta in talks to acquire dozens of small narrowbody jets - sources

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"Delta has been evaluating new and used aircraft acquisition opportunities in the roughly 100-seat gauge as we've continued to replace our 50-seat regional fleet with larger, more customer friendly mainline aircraft," an airline spokesman said.
 
Last month Delta CEO-elect Ed Bastian told a JPMorgan investor conference that it would need more small narrowbody planes in the same category as the 110-130-seat CSeries.
 
"We have 120 MD-80s that need to be retired over the next five years. So ... there's still a considerable need there."
 
 
 
Funny that the blowhard who used to post here droned endlessly about how AA's massive refleeting orders in 2011 were ill-advised and that Delta's strategy of keeping its 757s and its MD-80s was clearly superior. However, over the last several years, DL has ordered A321s and 737-900ERs to replace many of its 757s and has ordered A330s and A350s to replace its 747s, and is now looking to replace its MD-80s. Only thing different is that DL dribbled out the orders piece-meal instead of ordering hundreds all at once.

Since MD-80s generally seat close to 140, looks to me like 738s are still the best replacements, size-wise. The MAX versions will likely provide additional fuel savings.
 
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FWAAA said:
Funny that the blowhard who used to post here droned endlessly about how AA's massive refleeting orders in 2011 were ill-advised and that Delta's strategy of keeping its 757s and its MD-80s was clearly superior. However, over the last several years, DL has ordered A321s and 737-900ERs to replace many of its 757s and has ordered A330s and A350s to replace its 747s, and is now looking to replace its MD-80s. Only thing different is that DL dribbled out the orders piece-meal instead of ordering hundreds all at once.Since MD-80s generally seat close to 140, looks to me like 738s are still the best replacements, size-wise. The MAX versions will likely provide additional fuel savings.
No the difference is the balance sheet and how they are financed and at what rates.
 
NewHampshire Black Bears said:
Hmmm,  so  Del - DUH   wants to replace  main line crews flying md-80's with  BIG  RJ's  using  slave labor wages (crews) at DL's Regional carriers !   I hope DALPA takes those to A-holes the $$ 'cleaners'.
There mainline aircraft not rj's. If you weren't blinded by hate you could educate yourself.
 
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meto   if DL were to get the C-Series from Bombardier   would they be classified as mainline similar to the 175-190s type
 
FWAAA said:
Funny that the blowhard who used to post here droned endlessly about how AA's massive refleeting orders in 2011 were ill-advised and that Delta's strategy of keeping its 757s and its MD-80s was clearly superior. However, over the last several years, DL has ordered A321s and 737-900ERs to replace many of its 757s and has ordered A330s and A350s to replace its 747s, and is now looking to replace its MD-80s. Only thing different is that DL dribbled out the orders piece-meal instead of ordering hundreds all at once.Since MD-80s generally seat close to 140, looks to me like 738s are still the best replacements, size-wise. The MAX versions will likely provide additional fuel savings.
Funny how that works...

BTW, anyone know what the status is of DL's E190 order?

Not that it will factor in, but at least most ground crews are familiar with it, and most airport's infrastructure are already "ready" for them, since we utilize 170/175's all over the system...
 
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robbedagain said:
meto   if DL were to get the C-Series from Bombardier   would they be classified as mainline similar to the 175-190s type
Mainline. DL is not interested in increasing the rj fleets.
 
Buying used aircraft at reduced prices is a win-win.  When new a/c cost 75 plus million for one, and you get say 3-4 used for under the 75 million is a no brainer.  SWA has purchased 84 used a/c so far and are still looking for more. They still cannot get enough a/c for the demands that are presently out there.  SWA has and is sending purchasers all over the world looking for any and all used 737's they can find.
 
Did you not see the deal UA just got from Boeing?
 
Bombardier is still seething over losing the UA order to Boeing, but who can blame UA for taking a deal they couldn't refuse?...

The CSeries is a capable airframe from most accounts, but it's a tough market to break into.

In the 100 seat gap, the F-100 and even the B-717 had relatively little success, due in part to price competition from the A-319 and B-737 at the upper end, and the E-170/E-190 at the other end.
 
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FWAAA said:
Funny that the blowhard who used to post here droned endlessly about how AA's massive refleeting orders in 2011 were ill-advised and that Delta's strategy of keeping its 757s and its MD-80s was clearly superior. However, over the last several years, DL has ordered A321s and 737-900ERs to replace many of its 757s and has ordered A330s and A350s to replace its 747s, and is now looking to replace its MD-80s. Only thing different is that DL dribbled out the orders piece-meal instead of ordering hundreds all at once.

Since MD-80s generally seat close to 140, looks to me like 738s are still the best replacements, size-wise. The MAX versions will likely provide additional fuel savings.
I think Delta ordered 100 737-900ER's, not too small of an order.
 
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The C-Series in is financial trouble and the Quebec has not given the first payment of two  of $500 million each.
 
Bombardier is in dire straights because of this plane.
 

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