WeAAsles said:
Curious? According to SWAMT they just chucked all their top officers. Were those people doing the negotiations? How long will it take to put in new negotiators? How long to get them up to speed? Does this set the membership further back now in trying to come to an agreement?
Hope you enjoyed your vacation?
seriously?
They have been at it for 4 years and haven't really done anything. It was probably time for a change.
DALPA did the same thing after the first TA was rejected.
Time is no reason to go with a leadership team that is just going to walk back with a turd or nothing. Quite honestly its refreshing to see a union be more militant and not be afraid to move on from reps who aren't getting the job done.
WeAAsles said:
Didn't say that they DON'T work. Just that I think they have it rougher when push comes to shove.
Note: NWA. Push "came" to shove. Details and particulars irrelevant. Company won BIG time.
Not at all.
AMFA saved our craft (even with other "unions" helping wall street to kill it)
They take what NWA wanted then US airline maintenance dies. American, Delta, United etc. would have all gone to the exact same model. 1,000 or so people for the line in hubs and to pencil whip the paper work when yet another **** show comes back from Asia, Mexico, AAR, TIMCO etc. etc. etc. People love to say that they lost, nut they saved our craft. Sadly sometimes it does mean things end up like the did for NWA or for Eastern, but a lot of those guys have had a chance to get back with airlines now because they struck.
example, we are hiring all the time now, so much so they are doing a yearly freeze and fill. Line stations are opening up, some work is coming back in-house etc.....none of that happens if a lot of current Delta management had their way at Northwest.
Company didn't win at all...... and AMFA was the only mechanics union to stand up for its members during the BK era. IAM, IBT, TWU all sold there members right down the river. Matter of fact the only unions who really did ANYTHING during BK time was AMFA, APA and APFA. The rest just bent over.....
You seem to be living in the good old days, now it doesn't matter if the union is in-house or a big national union. The days of big time strikes are gone. At least with the in-house or craft union it isn't a big money grab, ala the IAM. Also seems like the in-house has a better touch on reality than the big industrial unions.