DL has lost approx. $4B in fuel hedges...

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  1. Kev3188

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  2. NewHampshire Black Bears

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    Well Kev, with a 'second - to - none' CEO like Big DICK Anderson at the helm for the last 4 of those years, it's not surprising.
    BUT, he did go out and buy an old refinery, BUT, then again, he SKIPPED TOWN in the middle of the night.
     
    Speaking of Fuel and Hedging, I wonder how MUCH  $$$$$  the Big Dog (company)  M A D E, in that area ?
     
  3. FWAAA

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    About half of that $4 billion is ancient history - during the 2008-09 price volatility, DL lost about $2 billion on fuel hedges. At the same time, US lost over $1 billion, which nearly plunged US back into Ch 11. The US loss of over $1 billion was proportionately larger than DL's $2 billion in losses during that period.

    That's when Parker swore off hedging. Bastian flip-flopped a little in the Bloomberg interview; at one point, he said they were done with hedging but at another point, he said that DL would hedge again when it made sense.

    The $4 billion sounds massive, but DL paid something like $50-$60 billion for fuel over that eight years.
     
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  4. jimntx

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     "If Bastian isn’t paid to make the decisions, who is?  Maybe Carl Icahn?"  Now, that's cold.
     
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  5. NewHampshire Black Bears

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    AH, just ANOTHER...." DELTA DAY " in the news  !!!!!!!
     
  6. FWAAA

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    Delta may have lost $4 billion on ineffective fuel hedges, but pre-merger AA "lost" at least $4 billion on its higher labor costs between 2008 and 2012 when the more efficient labor agreements (lower labor costs) were reached.

    AA's labor cost disadvantage was at least $800 million a year compared to DL/NW and UA/CO; AA's disavantage compared to US with its bargain-basement labor costs was more than $1 billion a year.
     
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  7. NewHampshire Black Bears

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    Whatever FWAAA.
     
    In the USA and Western Europe, there's       AA - UA - BA - LH - AF, then 'everybody else' !
     
    I await anxiously, the next  " DaD "   story.   (Delta airlines DRAMA)   
     
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  8. topDawg

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    Do you understand that Delta is larger than all of the above except American.....and made more money than them right?
     
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  9. eolesen

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    Facts tend to confuse Bears.
     
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