DL may drop MSP NRT

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  1. jcw

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    remember how DL portray's the LCC's wanting access to LGA - DL said it paid good money and was patient overtime building up the LGA hub - so no one should be allowed into the inn
     
    DL paid to build the NRT hub and did not let folks in there either
     
    You can't protect hubs and not let others in and then when another airport opens up say - you have to get your fair share before anyone can get some
     
    Everyone starts back at zero with a new airport
     
    Remember DL does not want a second airport in ATL
     
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  2. eolesen

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    Uh, no. If DL can't support daily service with all the captive travelers in SkyPesos, then AA certainly can't, nor would UA or HA or anyone else who wanted to give it a try.

    Cities lose service over economics all the time. Protecting the NRT hub by not allowing HND to be opened up is simply asking the government to subsidize DL... Aren't they against government subsidies?
     
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  3. jcw

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    They accepted subsidies to run PIT to CDG for several years
     
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    They're against them except when they're for them...
     
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  5. topDawg

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    FWIW every airline excepts local subsidies for routes all the time.
    the difference between DL/AA/UA taking a subsidies for a route is generally they only last for so long and a lot of times don't make a profit. They normally cover costs in hope that over time the route become profitable. 
     
    And of course the US3 aren't tossing as much capacity against a wall not caring if any of its sticks because the US government will make them profitable either way. 
     
    Really? Everyone starts at zero? That isn't remotely close to what has happened or will happen at HND. AA/JL and UA/ANA are going to get a huge benefit. Delta is going to lose, but it sure as hell isn't because anyone is starting over.
     
    having said that, you can't win at every airport. 
     
    FWIW i have said my peace about them quitting A4A but this isn't an issue where A4A helps them. This one of the few cases where Delta is better off without A4A. 
     
    either way its going to be a loss for Delta. Having said that I don't believe for a second we are going to get to a point where HND makes anyone's NRT operations lose money. The only airlines who are really going to benefit from this is the Japaneses airlines.
     
    But at 5 slots split between the 3 or 4 airlines in the US isn't going to be anywhere remotely close to anyone leaving NRT.  
     
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