If your use of your “off topic” banner was even the least bit objective, it might be taken seriously but this thread shows once again that you only trot it out when you want to shut down opinions counter to yours, which typically means anything that would be contrary to the labor movement.
If you had been the least bit objective, you would have hoisted your billboard after the 3[sup]rd[/sup] post; the OP asked an honest and balanced question with no measure of anything objectionable.He rec’d an honest answer and the thread could have been shut down at that point.
But participant number 3 chose to throw in the typical dig at DL which the OP chose to respond and to which I jumped in again.
If you, Q, are tired of the romance quality of these threads then I am tired of seeing every thread on this forum about DL turned into an opportunity to bash DL, esp. coming from the pro-labor crowd who can’t get past the reality that DL absorbed one of the most pro-union airlines in the country and shortly after the merger delivered the labor movement their biggest loss of membership in the history of the US airline industry.There is no dancing around that reality, no sugar coating, and no denying the enormous impact DL’s move had on the lives of some of the biggest fans of the labor movement, including you and most of the people who continually turn topic after topic into an opportunity to try to frame the company as the villain.
There is no other airline on this or any other discussion forum that is the subject of the disdain which DL is subjected to here.A number of participants on other forums have said they are tired of hearing the negativity regarding DL on those forums.
I don’t expect anyone to LIKE their company or any company but I do expect that if people want to have any credibility in discussing what goes on at DL that they acknowledge the reality of the situation at DL including that their opinions are those of a minority of DL employees based on every publicly available statistic. Factor in that DL’s employees fared better in BK w/o labor representation and are seeing salary and benefit increases faster than any other airline and it is absolutely on topic to note that DL employees are not at all likely to choose labor representation.
What cannot be denied is that DL carefully planned out this merger, began the coordination towards a possible merger with NW years before it was announced, and ultimately has achieved everything it publicly said it set out to do in the merger esp. WRT maintaining its historic non-union dynamic. While there are many who predicted that would be at risk, DL achieved its goal as I predicted.
It is not DL’s fault or my burden to carry that DL employees rejected the labor-mgmt model that many people on this forum advocate.
And as long as the pro-labor crowd on this forum wants to reshape every discussion into a commentary on DL’s labor model, then you can be assured it will be absolutely on topic to discuss why a discussion about some DL employee pep program follows the same path as other discussions in morphing into a labor discussion.
Once again, I would like to see the DL forum receive a lot more activity but I am not going to allow this forum to be reduced to the playground of a pro-labor contingent who only sees wrong w/ the actions of DL and attempts to shut down anyone who speaks any incriminating word against the labor movement.
