"HILLARY SPEAKS".........Large Majority...LISTEN !

Aside from riding her husband's coattails, what EXACTLY has Hillary accomplished POLITICALLY? Her stupidest contribution was the IT TAKES A VILLAGE crap. She should have set up the village in her own backyard and lived there.
 
cltrat said:
it doesn't really matter if she was doing her job or not.Al the matters now in her work in the court of public opinion which may not look too favorably at this, not that the public needs much reason to dislike a lawyer.
I will give you some credit though, you keep trying to defend her which with her record is a pretty tough job.
All the libs looking at her as a savior in '16 may be disappointed.I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't even run.
Not sure how you think I'm defending her.

All I am saying is that she was doing her job.

I agree that public opinion is a that counts but as in the other thread about Iraq, East climbing that Cheney was a draft dodger is incorrect. Given that I am defending Cheney in that thread does not mean that I will defend him in all instances. Can't stand the SOB.

Regardless we should at least be honest about what we are talking about. Don't care if you don't like her. She was doing her job. That fact the public and apparently at least a few her don't get that.
 
signals said:
I'm not my brother's keeper. That's Christian!
Well ike it or don't the US was founded upon two basic principles.
 
The Principle of Natural Law regarding individual rights
 
AND
 
The basic Christian tenets of the Bible which includes the story of Cain and Abel.
 
SparrowHawk said:
Well ike it or don't the US was founded upon two basic principles.
 
The Principle of Natural Law regarding individual rights
 
AND
 
The basic Christian tenets of the Bible which includes the story of Cain and Abel.
 
 
I get the natural law, since jefferson spoke of" natures law and natures god" in the declaration of independence... the basic Christian tenets of the Bible?  you will have to point out which founding documents espouse to those
 
Dog Wonder said:
Could never get you to buy a book.
 
Speaking of books....this looks like it might be a loo loo:
 
 
“I hate that man Obama more than any man I’ve ever met, more than any man who ever lived,” Bill Clinton said to friends on one occasion, adding he would never forgive Obama for suggesting he was a racist during the 2008 campaign. The feeling is mutual. Obama made ­excuses not to talk to Bill, while the first lady privately sniped about Hillary.
 
“I’ve had two successors since I left the White House — Bush and Obama — and I’ve heard more from Bush, asking for my advice, than I’ve heard from Obama. I have no relationship with the president — none whatsoever,” Clinton said.
http://nypost.com/2014/06/21/inside-the-jealous-feud-between-the-obamas-and-hildebeest-clintons/
 
Well ike it or don't the US was founded upon two basic principles.

 
The basic Christian tenets of the Bible which includes the story of Cain and Abel.
Not true, they are more based on the Hebrew side of the Bible which is the Old Testament. The Laws of Moses apply more so than what Jesus ever said or did. Get to know the images at the Supreme Court that include Moses and Mohammed, but no image of Jesus. That sums up the inspiration for our laws of the land.
 
Dog Wonder said:
People taking care of each other isn't Christian. It is Communissssss!
 
No Dog....communiss everybody worships and takes care of the state....if you don't play nice, the state takes care of you.
 
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signals said:
Not true, they are more based on the Hebrew side of the Bible which is the Old Testament. The Laws of Moses apply more so than what Jesus ever said or did. Get to know the images at the Supreme Court that include Moses and Mohammed, but no image of Jesus. That sums up the inspiration for our laws of the land.
 
I don't disagree, I just didn't break it down as far as you. You also have to include English Common Law as an influence as was the Magna Carta. Point is/was that once you get past the theory of Natural Law, the nuts and bolts of running the country had to come from someplace
 
 
By 10 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2012, when Hillary Clinton received a call from President Obama, she was one of the most thoroughly briefed officials in Washington on the unfolding disaster in Benghazi, Libya.
 
She knew that Ambassador Christopher Stevens and a communications operator were dead, and that the attackers had launched a well-coordinated mortar assault on the CIA annex, which would cost the lives of two more Americans. She had no doubt that a terrorist attack had been launched against America on the anniversary of 9/11.
 
However, when Hillary picked up the phone and heard Obama’s voice, she learned the president had other ideas in mind. With less than two months before Election Day, he was still boasting that he had al Qaeda on the run. If the truth about Benghazi became known, it would blow that argument out of the water.
“Hillary was stunned when she heard the president talk about the Benghazi attack,” one of her top legal advisers said in an interview. “Obama wanted her to say that the attack had been a spontaneous demonstration triggered by an obscure video on the Internet that demeaned the Prophet Mohammed.”
 
This adviser continued: “Hillary told Obama, ‘Mr. President, that story isn’t credible. Among other things, it ignores the fact that the attack occurred on 9/11.’ But the president was adamant. He said, ‘Hillary, I need you to put out a State Department release as soon as possible.’”
After her conversation with the president, Hillary called Bill Clinton, who was at his penthouse apartment in the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, and told him what Obama wanted her to do.
“I’m sick about it,” she said, according to the legal adviser, who was filled in on the conversation.
“That story won’t hold up,” Bill said.
“I know,” Hillary said. “I told the president that.”
“It’s an impossible story,” Bill said. “I can’t believe the president is claiming it wasn’t terrorism. Then again, maybe I can. It looks like Obama isn’t going to allow anyone to say that terrorism has occurred on his watch.”
Hillary’s legal adviser provided further detail:
 
“During their phone call, Bill started playing with various doomsday scenarios, up to and including the idea that Hillary consider resigning as secretary of state over the issue. But both he and Hillary quickly agreed that resigning wasn’t a realistic option. If her resignation hurt Obama’s chances of winning re-election, her fellow Democrats would never forgive her. Hillary was already thinking of running for president in 2016, and her political future, as well as Obama’s, hung in the balance.”
 
Obama had put Hillary in a corner, and she and Bill didn’t see a way out. And so, shortly after 10 o’clock on the night of September 11, she released an official statement that blamed the Benghazi attack on an “inflammatory posted on the Internet.”
 
The Benghazi Deception was in full swing.
 
And all of you fail to grasp, they didnt want religion and the government to mix, hence why the separation of church and state.