Jetblue Employment

haze

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Oct 4, 2005
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Hello folks.

I am considering applying for a ground-ops position with JetBlue and would appreciate any feedback, advice, testimony, etc. as to the actual nature of working in this capacity for the company.

My goal, principally, is to get in on the ground floor with JetBlue, but as I have no experience in aviation I am thinking that this would be the best way to do so.

Any responses will be appreciated and the more experiential and detailed they are, the better.

Thank you in advance.

Haze
 
haze said:
Hello folks.

I am considering applying for a ground-ops position with JetBlue and would appreciate any feedback, advice, testimony, etc. as to the actual nature of working in this capacity for the company.

My goal, principally, is to get in on the ground floor with JetBlue, but as I have no experience in aviation I am thinking that this would be the best way to do so.

Any responses will be appreciated and the more experiential and detailed they are, the better.

Thank you in advance.

Haze
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My advice to you...

Find a different career path! You don't want to work in the airline industry, it stinks! It is getting worse everyday and there's no end in sight. If you really want to work in this business, work for a carrier that has a union on the property.

After 5 years at JetBlue, you may not have a job if the company doesn't like you.
 
Haze -- B.O.B. is an idiot. Don't let his jaded view dissuade you from giving JetBlue a try. If you want to try a job in the airline business, JetBlue is THE best company to work for--union or not. I recommend that you spend some time at JetBlue and make the decision for yourself.

I do not work for Ground Ops, so I can't give you much in the way of specifics about their jobs. Realize that there is a difference between mechanics (who inspect and fix the planes) and the customer service crewmembers (who range from baggage handlers and ground crews to gate agents). Specifically what type of job were you wanting?

Finally, it is not clear what kind of aviation experience you want. If you want to become a pilot, this is not the way to go about it. If you just want to be involved in the industry, then why not give JetBlue a chance to see if you like it?
 
dgs said:
Haze -- B.O.B. is an idiot. Don't let his jaded view dissuade you from giving JetBlue a try. If you want to try a job in the airline business, JetBlue is THE best company to work for--union or not. I recommend that you spend some time at JetBlue and make the decision for yourself.

I do not work for Ground Ops, so I can't give you much in the way of specifics about their jobs. Realize that there is a difference between mechanics (who inspect and fix the planes) and the customer service crewmembers (who range from baggage handlers and ground crews to gate agents). Specifically what type of job were you wanting?

Finally, it is not clear what kind of aviation experience you want. If you want to become a pilot, this is not the way to go about it. If you just want to be involved in the industry, then why not give JetBlue a chance to see if you like it?
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Southwest is looking for people to work in Operations.
http://southwest.com/careers/
 
Southwest is a far better option right now, however this isn't the job it was 15 years ago. Then, if you didn't know someone you didn't get on anywhere. Now it really doesn't matter. If you are young and just need a start its fine. However, it is not a "career," any longer. You can make good money if you want to work tons of hours. There is a lot of down time, so you can bang out decent paychecks w/o running yourself down. I would recommend learning a trade or school, but to each his own.
 
dgs said:
Haze -- B.O.B. is an idiot. Don't let his jaded view dissuade you from giving JetBlue a try. If you want to try a job in the airline business, JetBlue is THE best company to work for--union or not. I recommend that you spend some time at JetBlue and make the decision for yourself.

I do not work for Ground Ops, so I can't give you much in the way of specifics about their jobs. Realize that there is a difference between mechanics (who inspect and fix the planes) and the customer service crewmembers (who range from baggage handlers and ground crews to gate agents). Specifically what type of job were you wanting?

Finally, it is not clear what kind of aviation experience you want. If you want to become a pilot, this is not the way to go about it. If you just want to be involved in the industry, then why not give JetBlue a chance to see if you like it?
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If I'm an idiot, then you must be a dumb***!

Truth hurts, huh? It's true about the 5 year deal at JetBlue. I have several friends who went to JB after being furloughed from AA and they say it was a big mistake.

Southwest is a much better option. They're the biggest unionized airline in the entire country. They have great benefits and the people are great!
 
DGS,

There are those of us who have been in this industry for many, many years! I was fortunate to begin my career before deregulation when people actually got dressed up to fly and employees were not subject to endless concessions.
WORKING FOR AN AIRLINE was one of the most enviable jobs to have regardless of what position you held. Many a family was raised with one parent working for an airline. Be it baggage handler, mechanic, ticket agent, an airline job was IT.

Do you think a young person can buy a house, raise a family, and carry a car payment on the wages now being paid?

There is no more glamour working for an airline anymore. Buy who cares about glamour? Pay and benefits mean more to me than anything besides my family Would you honestly advise a young person to get into the airline biz?
Your children? Would you advise them?

Corporate greed has reduced once great careers to just jobs which CEO's constantly remind us that we are lucky to have.

You are foolish into believing that working in this industry is still a good choice.
Be it Jetblue, Southwest, or any new low cost carrier that pops up in the future.

Only a young kid totally ignorant of what has happened to this business over the past 25 or so years thinks airline employment is a wise decsion.

Alot of us now many people of have joined JetBlue after losing jobs with the legacy carriers. All is not the peaches and cream party that some suggest exists there.

Mechanics I know say it's same old crap they left. The big difference is that when you hire on with JetBlue, you know what the deal is.

Maybe you think it is a good career path, but save it for the babes in the woods, not people here who have been in this business since the respectable times.
 
Thanks for the responses, wide-ranging as they were, I certainly get the drift that as in any industry there is the marketed perception of a company and the behind-the-curtain reality. This is specifically why I made the inquiry. If anyone can give me more details about the reality amongst employees at JB, I'd really appreciate it.

To answer a respondants question: I am not a babe in the woods; I am 35. My tack in this present job search is dictated primarily by a desire to work for a progressively-minded, creative, and customer-service oriented company that will be a leader in the decades to come. I will be a newcomer to any of the JetBlue positions and some are out-of-reach or interest so I am clear that I will be starting at the bottom rung. But, what better way to get to know the inside-and-out of a company and be able to contribute, perhaps in small, unnoticeable ways at first, to its development?

I hear a lot of complaints in the business world, media, schools about how corporations have no sense of loyalty towards their employees in these days of cutthroat pricing and stockholder-dictated management. I have not tested my theory, but I think that the way to change this is from the ground-up, that is from within the company structure by employees who have begun at a below-management level and worked their way up into the decision-making ranks. As opposed to by unionized force. (I can here the upcoming roar against that comment.)

Thus I am looking seriously at JB. There is career path and then there is career creation, and I am looking for a company that supports the latter.

My grandfather started at a large retail chain as a shoe salesman and worked his way to the top and because he climbed that ladder had a very good sense of how to serve the customer base without undercutting the employees. Though I know better than to assume such a climb is possible these days, I still agree with his tenet that starting at the bottom gives you the best view of the top (and how to get there).

Anymore advice, insider's info, rants and raves will be welcomed.
 
"It's true about the 5 year deal at JetBlue".
What is true about the 5 year deal, what happens after 5 years?

"I have several friends who went to JB after being furloughed from AA and they say it was a big mistake".
If JBU is such a bad deal, why don't they just leave. It really is as simple as that!

Although, it is funny. I have flown with plenty of AA people and they all seem to like jetblue much better than AA, but different strokes I suppose.
 
Dizel8 said:
"It's true about the 5 year deal at JetBlue".
What is true about the 5 year deal. what happens after 5 years?

"I have several friends who went to JB after being furloughed from AA and they say it was a big mistake".
I guess they should have stayed at AA, oh wait, they got furloughed. So if JBU is such a bad deal, why don't they just leave. It really is as simple as that!

Although, it is funny. I have flown with plenty of AA people and they all seem to like jetblue much better than AA, but different strokes I suppose.

Why don't you tone down your extreme hatred of jetblue, maybe then people would take you serious!
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Why should I? I think JetBlue is worthless.
 
B.O.B. said:
Why should I? I think JetBlue is worthless.
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Well, then why bother talking about it, why get upset about it? Just be happy that you are not working here and be done with it!
 
haze, you write very well and come across as far better educated than someone looking to make a start on the bottom rung at 35. Whatever your reasons, good luck to you. But I would implore you to look at other venues in the travel business such as casinos and hotels, etc. if you must work in the industry. Working midnights for $10 an hour with Tue Wed off is no way to go. Before it was a trade off for a better road ahead, now no one knows whats coming in 6 months. If you want an insecure, unstable job with lousy hours, apply. If you think you deserve better, look elsewhere.
 
OK, I'll add my 2 cents worth...


I love working for JetBlue. And after reading what you're looking for, I think you might find this company a good fit. We have a lot of smart, talented people here in all departments. I have worked in the industry for 15 yrs. (and an associated industry for another 5), and this is my 4th airline. I have worked at union and non-union shops. I have never been furloughed in this industry, and every airline I have worked for is still flying. I've seen gross mis-management and micro-management, and I have seen awe-inspiring servant-based leadership, the latter here at JetBlue. We are by no means without problems and faults. We have plenty of people here who shouldn't be. We have made some awkward mis-steps. But overall, the aim here is true, the talk is walked and the future is bright, because we realize we are only as good as our last flight, the last bag returned to its owner, and the last promise kept.

Go out to one of our airports and talk with some employees. You'll probably find most very happy to talk about their experience here. Put your application in, and when you're called you'll have an opportunity to talk with a recruiter...ask questions...you want to find the right fit, and so do we, it's as easy as that. It's not all about experience...we can teach the nuts and bolts of a job...but it's about attitude and values here....and those are the things that you can't teach.

Best of luck in your search!
 
B.O.B. said:
Why should I? I think JetBlue is worthless.
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More drivel from the board moron. We are worthless untill you need a ride to work. Crawl back in your hole.