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Well...It turns out that posts with nearly 5000 pages of replies can really bog a server down. Closing the old one and starting another. Continued from the other discussion.
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A new chapter for us all... Hello APA, goodbye Usapa.
Goodbye gold standard, goodbye intransigence...
It's over.
 
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A little premature, don't you think Pre? Considering a failed Delta takeover, and an uncompleted US/AWA merger.
This is completely different. It's 80% complete...watch AMR get behind the merger in short order. USCABA has been ignored from the word go. Nobody gives two sh%$#s what the scabs have to say. Hysterical.
 
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There you go boys. More money pissed away for nothing because of Cleary's Napoleon complex.



Case 7:12-cv-01981-ER Document 10 Filed 05/04/12 Page 1 of 1
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

12 Civ. 1981 (ER)(LMS)

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U.S. AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, by its President Michael J. Cleary,
Plaintiff,

-against-

NOTICE OF SEHAM, SEHAM, MELTZ & PETERSEN, LLP, VOLUNTARY LEE SEHAM, LOUIS MELTZ, and DISCONTINUANCE SCOTT PETERSEN,
Defendants.

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PLEASE TAKE NOTICE, that no defendant having served an answer or motion for summary judgment, Plaintiff U.S. AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, by its President Michael J. Cleary, hereby voluntarily discontinues this action pursuant to Rule 41(a)(1)(A) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure without prejudice and without costs or fees to any party as against the other.

Dated: May 4, 2012
New York, New York

By:
Yours, etc.,
O'DWYER RNSTIEN, LLP
GARY L RM (GS 9287) Attorneys for Plaintiff 52 Duane Street, 5111F1.
New York, New York 10007
(212) 571-7100
 
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A first person account of how well negotiations are going for USAPA (Lee and Mark are westies):

A personal report from Lee indicated that they (all USAPA negotiators including DiOrio and Colello) were shut out on the first day but that they were participants in remaining sessions. In fact DiOrio wanted to leave Lee out but Mark insisted Lee be included.

As a side note Lee told me DiOrio was pissed that they were shut out on day one. Lee asked him if he liked feeling that way and told him that's exactly what the west was feeling all this time. DiOrio shrank in the realization...
 
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Lee asked him if he liked feeling that way and told him that's exactly what the west was feeling all this time.

Sniffle/etc. Honestly now; how many boxes of tissues do you "spartans" go through on a daily basis? ;)

Seriously though; has anyone heard anything more as to whether or not the APA has actually taken membership voting out of the TA acceptance/rejection process?
 
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There you go boys. More money pissed away for nothing because of Cleary's Napoleon complex.



Case 7:12-cv-01981-ER Document 10 Filed 05/04/12 Page 1 of 1
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

12 Civ. 1981 (ER)(LMS)

X
U.S. AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, by its President Michael J. Cleary,
Plaintiff,

-against-

NOTICE OF SEHAM, SEHAM, MELTZ & PETERSEN, LLP, VOLUNTARY LEE SEHAM, LOUIS MELTZ, and DISCONTINUANCE SCOTT PETERSEN,
Defendants.

X


PLEASE TAKE NOTICE, that no defendant having served an answer or motion for summary judgment, Plaintiff U.S. AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, by its President Michael J. Cleary, hereby voluntarily discontinues this action pursuant to Rule 41(a)(1)(A) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure without prejudice and without costs or fees to any party as against the other.

Dated: May 4, 2012
New York, New York

By:
Yours, etc.,
O'DWYER RNSTIEN, LLP
GARY L RM (GS 9287) Attorneys for Plaintiff 52 Duane Street, 5111F1.
New York, New York 10007
(212) 571-7100

Question.......Can the company not do the same thing with Judge Silver.....bypassing the legal decision and just await for the next arbitrator's decision, which would include APA? Parker would side step the whole legal issue.
 
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Probably a few boxes less than what you're going through now that you're no longer running the show. And so much less than the Cleary fans.

So...one must assume that whining, regardless of cause or situation, is just the natural state of things out your way then, understood ;)
 
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Question.......Can the company not do the same thing with Judge Silver.....bypassing the legal decision and just await for the next arbitrator's decision, which would include APA? Parker would side step the whole legal issue.
NO!

usapa dropped the suit before it got started. If you notice it said before the defendant responded. Meaning before he had to spend any money and was harmed and could file a counter suit for damages. All of the filings are complete in the DJ.

The company wants an answer. The only people that don't want an answer from judge Silver is usapa and east pilots.
 
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Question.......Can the company not do the same thing with Judge Silver.....bypassing the legal decision and just await for the next arbitrator's decision, which would include APA? Parker would side step the whole legal issue.

Why would they? They initiated it and want a decision on the Nic. You can't go into the next arbitration without definitively knowing whether or not ignoring the Nic will result in the company being sued.

If for some reason Silver hasn't ruled, the company will submit the Nic to be safe. This being based on what they said during the DJ hearing.

Using the Nic, for them, is the safest way to go when it comes to legal jeopardy. The DFR has already been proven to have merit and the company doesn't want this entanglement down the road.
 
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