- Aug 20, 2002
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New NonRev policy annouced
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traderjake
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"Beginning this summer, non-rev travelers will move to legacy American’s system of boarding, which is to board by check-in time. This approach gives all employees an equal chance at every flight, and is the system that the majority of employees use now. It’s also the right approach as we considered the technology platform upon which our employee travel system resides. "
My union told me DOH was the gold standard.
My union told me DOH was the gold standard.
There is a mobile app to check the list and it is also displayed on the board behind the gate counter. It shows you everyone on the standby list and the order.
Bogey,Bogey said:
Let's say I check in right at the -24 hour mark...how long before I know what my position is?
Let me clarify. If you check in first as a D2, no other D2 can go before you. But if you check in first as a D2, then two minutes later I check in as a D1, I would go before you.
On Jetnet, there are two ways to check-in. First, there is an app called, Jetnet Check-in, (isn't that original and cute? 
). You can check-in for flights today or tomorrow if within 24 hours of scheduled departure. You select day of travel (today or tomorrow and it displays day of week and date for each). You then enter Departure location and flight number. If you then hit Continue, it takes you to the next page which is a confirmation of your information, and gives you the opportunity to put yourself on the upgrade list for First Class (or when you make the reservation, you can list for F/C which may or may not mean that you get a F/C seat. There are those people known as revenue passengers that keep getting in the way of my upgrades.
if you don't remember the flight number, you can go to "non-rev travel planner" app) which will display all of your non-rev listings that are active. Click on the appropriate pnr id then select "checkin" from a drop-down list. That then takes you to the jetnet checkin app with the flight and date info, and gives you the chance to request upgrade to F/C.
At the time you checkin, if the flight is not close to full, the system will go ahead and assign you a seat in coach and you can printout your boarding pass at home (I recommend this. That way there is less chance that another passenger will get assigned the same seat).
The jetnet checkin app is closely connected to the computer clock. If you try to checkin more than 24 hours prior to scheduled departure you will get an error message. However, it does not wipeout the information; so, when it gets close to the checkin time, you can just sit there hitting the continue until it displays a boarding pass or an error message. If the flight is close to full, you will get the Priority Verification display (which gets you through TSA security). The Priority Verification looks like a boarding pass except it just doesn't have an assigned seat number on it.
Justme: When you get checked in and the Boarding Pass/Priority Verification card is displayed, there is a link on that display to check the Standby List, it will show you the real time position and 1st 3 letters of the non-rev names and revenue upgrade requests. For instance I always show as Upgrade Pas and my check-in time; so, there is no question of whose is first, second, or third, etc on the standby list. Also, IIRC, it also shows who is D1, D2, D3 (non-rev codes, D1 being highest priority), and they are listed in that order.
Warning: Don't even THINK of checking in as a D2, seeing that you are way down the list; so, you decide to cancel your listing then relist as a D2 and checkin again. The computer tracks this, and it is a violation of travel policy that can cause you to lose ALL travel benefits.
P.S. Bogey you are correct. if you check in first as a D2, you will be ahead of all other D2s originating on this flight, but someone checking in as a D1 would list ahead of you. Also, a D2 who was listed for an earlier flight and wasn't able to board (not showing up at the gate doesn't count) will roll over to your flight ahead of you, but behind D1s.
Listing as a D1 must be used sparingly because employees are given 4 D1s per calendar year. The computer does not stop you from listing and traveling as a D1 a fifth or more times; however, it does spit out a report of you violating the travel policy which can cause loss of all travel privileges. Fortunately, there is a travel history app on Jetnet Travel that shows you the current year's travel history for you and all of the people on your "buddy pass" list. It is your responsibility to make sure you don't exceed 4 D1 travel events per year.
Of course, all of this post assumes that the current AA policy will survive intact in every way. There is no preference given to employees commuting to work. The company's position is you choose to live somewhere other than your base. That does not give you a leg up on employees traveling on vacation. Exception: Pilots who are commuting to work and the flight is full and there is more than one pilot listing for the cockpit jumpseat(s) can call their Crew Scheduler and get themselves changed to an A (traveling on company business) classification which puts them ahead of everyone other than previously listed A category employees--even revenue passengers. (I think there may be a limit to the number of times an individual pilot can do this, but I don't know for sure.)
One other caveat: On-line check-in may not be used within 1 hour of scheduled departure. You have to check-in at the ticket counter or gate. Exception: say you are listing for PHL-CLT-PHX. For CLT purposes you go on the standby list as a D2T (through passengers) the moment you board your flight at PHL. Through passenger non-revs go on the list ahead of originating D2s (or D1s as the case may be). One thing the company does not want to do is strand employees at an airport other than their home or destination airport. If it's your home airport, you can always go home and try again tomorrow. (If you commute to that airport, then you want to be sure that your flight into your base and your flight out of that base are on the same PNR; then you will be a D1(D2)T on that outbound flight.
And, for those of you with devious minds (like me) who might think "Well, I'll just book a turn PHL-PIT-PHL-CLT-PHX instead." NO, you can't stick an incidental turn at the beginning of a listing to make yourself a through passenger at your normally originating airport. That is another travel-benefits-losing violation. (I think it came about due to the sheer volume of super short flights out of DFW, such as DFW-AUS, DFW-LBB, DFW-SAT, DFW-OKC, etc.)
). You can check-in for flights today or tomorrow if within 24 hours of scheduled departure. You select day of travel (today or tomorrow and it displays day of week and date for each). You then enter Departure location and flight number. If you then hit Continue, it takes you to the next page which is a confirmation of your information, and gives you the opportunity to put yourself on the upgrade list for First Class (or when you make the reservation, you can list for F/C which may or may not mean that you get a F/C seat. There are those people known as revenue passengers that keep getting in the way of my upgrades.if you don't remember the flight number, you can go to "non-rev travel planner" app) which will display all of your non-rev listings that are active. Click on the appropriate pnr id then select "checkin" from a drop-down list. That then takes you to the jetnet checkin app with the flight and date info, and gives you the chance to request upgrade to F/C.
At the time you checkin, if the flight is not close to full, the system will go ahead and assign you a seat in coach and you can printout your boarding pass at home (I recommend this. That way there is less chance that another passenger will get assigned the same seat).
The jetnet checkin app is closely connected to the computer clock. If you try to checkin more than 24 hours prior to scheduled departure you will get an error message. However, it does not wipeout the information; so, when it gets close to the checkin time, you can just sit there hitting the continue until it displays a boarding pass or an error message. If the flight is close to full, you will get the Priority Verification display (which gets you through TSA security). The Priority Verification looks like a boarding pass except it just doesn't have an assigned seat number on it.
Justme: When you get checked in and the Boarding Pass/Priority Verification card is displayed, there is a link on that display to check the Standby List, it will show you the real time position and 1st 3 letters of the non-rev names and revenue upgrade requests. For instance I always show as Upgrade Pas and my check-in time; so, there is no question of whose is first, second, or third, etc on the standby list. Also, IIRC, it also shows who is D1, D2, D3 (non-rev codes, D1 being highest priority), and they are listed in that order.
Warning: Don't even THINK of checking in as a D2, seeing that you are way down the list; so, you decide to cancel your listing then relist as a D2 and checkin again. The computer tracks this, and it is a violation of travel policy that can cause you to lose ALL travel benefits.
P.S. Bogey you are correct. if you check in first as a D2, you will be ahead of all other D2s originating on this flight, but someone checking in as a D1 would list ahead of you. Also, a D2 who was listed for an earlier flight and wasn't able to board (not showing up at the gate doesn't count) will roll over to your flight ahead of you, but behind D1s.
Listing as a D1 must be used sparingly because employees are given 4 D1s per calendar year. The computer does not stop you from listing and traveling as a D1 a fifth or more times; however, it does spit out a report of you violating the travel policy which can cause loss of all travel privileges. Fortunately, there is a travel history app on Jetnet Travel that shows you the current year's travel history for you and all of the people on your "buddy pass" list. It is your responsibility to make sure you don't exceed 4 D1 travel events per year.
Of course, all of this post assumes that the current AA policy will survive intact in every way. There is no preference given to employees commuting to work. The company's position is you choose to live somewhere other than your base. That does not give you a leg up on employees traveling on vacation. Exception: Pilots who are commuting to work and the flight is full and there is more than one pilot listing for the cockpit jumpseat(s) can call their Crew Scheduler and get themselves changed to an A (traveling on company business) classification which puts them ahead of everyone other than previously listed A category employees--even revenue passengers. (I think there may be a limit to the number of times an individual pilot can do this, but I don't know for sure.)
One other caveat: On-line check-in may not be used within 1 hour of scheduled departure. You have to check-in at the ticket counter or gate. Exception: say you are listing for PHL-CLT-PHX. For CLT purposes you go on the standby list as a D2T (through passengers) the moment you board your flight at PHL. Through passenger non-revs go on the list ahead of originating D2s (or D1s as the case may be). One thing the company does not want to do is strand employees at an airport other than their home or destination airport. If it's your home airport, you can always go home and try again tomorrow. (If you commute to that airport, then you want to be sure that your flight into your base and your flight out of that base are on the same PNR; then you will be a D1(D2)T on that outbound flight.
And, for those of you with devious minds (like me) who might think "Well, I'll just book a turn PHL-PIT-PHL-CLT-PHX instead." NO, you can't stick an incidental turn at the beginning of a listing to make yourself a through passenger at your normally originating airport. That is another travel-benefits-losing violation. (I think it came about due to the sheer volume of super short flights out of DFW, such as DFW-AUS, DFW-LBB, DFW-SAT, DFW-OKC, etc.)
Great info Jim, thanks. Also, since I've read the above quoted portion it would be best for me if you'd just go back and edit your post to delete this bit of strategyjimntx said:
also, thanks Bogey for your answer(s)
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- Aug 20, 2002
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Great information guys...so with US you check in on line but go to gate and are assigned a seat once revenue and senior pax are cleared. What you are saying is that boarding priority in each section ie d1 d2 d3 etc is based on when you checked in on line within the 24 hour rule prior to flight?
The other post got a little long; so...
If you know RES codes (where all the flight listings reside on the computer) you can constantly check your position on the standby list once you are checked in. You can also use the Non-Rev Travel Planner app to check the loads on other flights to get a "feel" for whether or not there will be rollovers from one or more flights by specifying the date, a Departure and a Destination location. It will show you the current, real-time load (from RES) of each flight from your starting point to your destination that day. If the 3 flights ahead of you are MD-80s carrying 140 passengers and all are oversold by 10, and there are 10 non-revs on each flight, there is a good chance that you will not be getting on your first listed flight--assuming we are talking about nonstops. That's why I generally list for first flight of the day. If I get to my destination early, well that's better than not getting there at all.
By the way, in my vast career of 12 years, I have never failed to get to my non-rev destination the day I planned to go--just maybe not at the hour I planned. Gate agents are absolute geniuses at getting people on airplanes.
If you know RES codes (where all the flight listings reside on the computer) you can constantly check your position on the standby list once you are checked in. You can also use the Non-Rev Travel Planner app to check the loads on other flights to get a "feel" for whether or not there will be rollovers from one or more flights by specifying the date, a Departure and a Destination location. It will show you the current, real-time load (from RES) of each flight from your starting point to your destination that day. If the 3 flights ahead of you are MD-80s carrying 140 passengers and all are oversold by 10, and there are 10 non-revs on each flight, there is a good chance that you will not be getting on your first listed flight--assuming we are talking about nonstops. That's why I generally list for first flight of the day. If I get to my destination early, well that's better than not getting there at all.
By the way, in my vast career of 12 years, I have never failed to get to my non-rev destination the day I planned to go--just maybe not at the hour I planned. Gate agents are absolute geniuses at getting people on airplanes.
