Non Rev policies after merger?

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  1. USnonrev16

    USnonrev16 Newbie

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    Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and wanted to get your opinion on this. If US does merge with AA, what do you think will happen with the nonrev situation? Do you think that the new company would retain US' non rev policies?

    Also, what do you think of AA's policies right now? Would it be THAT bad if US adopted AA's? Finally, what do you think would happen to load factors for the new company? Would it be impossible to get anywhere due to American's employees' seniority?

    I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
     
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  2. FWAAA

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  3. Ramp Rogue

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    What is AA's non rev policy?

    Rogue.....
     
  4. wings396

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    Who knows, its a bit premature to even guess. I don't even have a clue what AA's policy is.
     
  5. necigrad

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    Honestly I don't think it will matter. As a West employee, what I saw was that our benefits didn't necessarily shift one way or another, but more towards whatever the company felt was reasonable. I seem to recall when the combined policy came out there was this big comparison to other carriers and what we were going to get. The only exception to this might be contractual, I THINK the West FAs have their benefits in their CBA.
     
  6. lax

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    AA boarding priority


    You will be assigned boarding priority within your travel classification based on the check-in time entered in SABRE. Preference for class of service will be offered in order of boarding priority when possible. Note: The revenue customers and higher priority non-rev travelers will be accommodated before you. Through passengers are boarded before all local passengers with the same boarding priority, regardless of check-in time.
     
  7. cynic

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    Whichever policy will generate more revenue is the one they will use.
     
  8. flybynite

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    I believe their policy is first come-first served.

    It's hard to say how non-reving will work out. US has some pretty senior folks too.
     
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  9. Non Rev

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    I "think" AA employees pay by flight segments. Years ago If found an AA pay stub on the floor. I recall seeing payroll deductions for flight segments. Hopefully an AA employee can give us the low down.
     
  10. Crash Pad DCA

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    AA
    No buddy passes until after two (2) years of service.
    Can fly for free in first (I'll check that) after 10 years of service.
     
  11. BoeingBoy

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    That was how AA handled charging for buddy passes - payroll deduction of the appropriate fee from the employee supplying the buddy passes. It was then up to the employee to get reimbursed by those using the buddy passes or give them away.

    Jim
     
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    Correction: I think AA is fee waived coach travel after five (5) years service.
     
  14. Veritas

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    Domestic coach travel is free with five years seniority. International coach travel is free with 25 years seniority.
     
  15. bikeguy

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    At AA its first "check in" first serve. Boarding is not by seniority.
    As an employee you are a -D2 but you get 2 round trip or 4 one way -D1 passes a year that are for your vacation. This gives you boarding priority over D2. Employee parents are D2P. Buddy passes are D3.
    If you are connecting at a hub you move ahead in line also. You are a D2T (D2 through) this is crap you are lowered in boarding priority just cause you work at a hub city.
    So the priority list can look like this......
    D1T, D1, D2T, D2, D2P, Then D3 then your lower non revs move in line........
    After 5 years coach is free (domestic) small service charge to go in first. ie...Dallas to El Paso is $18 bucks. You still have to dress up for first. No jeans, shorts or open toe shoes. Coach you can wear jeans just no holes in them.
    AA would not "bump" people up to first. So forever if coach was oversold and first has open seats you would make the flight. This was awsome. Now AA is selling first upgrades so you can not count on the first class seats being open. you need to watch it close. Non -reving is getting harder to do seems the flights are always oversold.
    How is it done at Airways?
     
  16. EastCheats

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    "At AA its first "check in" first serve. Boarding is not by seniority."

    At US Airways
    Boarding by date of
    hire (year/month/day),
    then check−in time

    BOARDING PRIORITIES
    The following describes the space available boarding priorities. A detailed boarding priority chart can
    be found on the Direct Reference System (DRS).
    Priorities Eligible Persons Boarding Method
    SA1P
     Personal travel for active/retired employees (mainline
    or wholly−owned subsidiaries) and their accompanying
    eligible family members traveling on a Vacation
    pass (SA1P pass) electronically credited in travel
    profile. This does not include guest pass travelers or
    family members traveling with working crew members
    or with employees flying PS2B for company business.
     Pre−approved business travel for Union officials.
    Boarding by date of
    hire (year/month/day),
    then check−in time
    SA2P  Emergency travel for retired employees. Boarding by check−in
    time.
    SA3P
     Personal travel for active employees (mainline or
    wholly−owned subsidiaries) and their accompanying
    eligible family members and/or Guest Pass riders.
    This includes eligible family/guest pass travelers
    accompanying working crew members or
    employees flying PS2B for company business.
    Boarding by date of
    hire (year/month/day),
    then check−in time
    SA4P
     Personal travel for retired employees and their
    accompanying eligible family members and/or Guest
    Pass riders.
     Unaccompanied eligible family members (spouse,
    domestic partner dependents, registered guest,
    parents) of active mainline or wholly owned subsidiary
    employees.
     Employees on leave/furlough.
     Survivors under the survivor travel program.
    Boarding by date of
    hire (year/month/day),
    then check−in time
    SA5P
     Unaccompanied family members of retired employees.
     US Express non−wholly owned active or retired
    employees flying on a US mainline flight.*
     Unaccompanied family members of employees on
    leave/furlough.
    Boarding by date of
    hire (year/month/day),
    then check−in time
    SA6P
     Unaccompanied family members of non−wholly owned
    US Express active or retired employees.
    Boarding by date of
    hire (year/month/day),
    then check−in time
    SA6O  Authorized OAL employees flying for company
    business.
    Boarding by time of
    check in.
    SA7P
     Unaccompanied Guest Pass travelers of mainline and
    Express (wholly owned and non−wholly owned)
    employees and retirees.
    Boarding by time of
    check in.

    America West was by check-in time US Airways, DOH. The company will probably do a survery of what the employees prefer and I think the AA system will be used based on previous experience since AA will be the majority. That's how they did it when they decided the travel policy for US/HP.
     
  17. wings396

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    I do believe that your DOH should be a factor when traveling NR. Going by check in time can get a bit complicated, especially if there are any computer issues of any sort.
     
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  18. gaucho99

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    What is the charge for intl travel for employees with less than 25 yrs of service?
     
  19. Dont call me Shirley

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    I would hope that retiree priority goes back the old US policy, rather than behind behind active employees. (At least for those with 25 years plus)
     
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  20. nevergiveup

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    I remember at EAL they had the time stamp machine. I like the seniority method better, providing you list at least 48 hours in advance.
     
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