Nwa Mechanics Strike

[Cris L]

Good companies do care about their people and if you are on top of your game, have the creditials and the wherewithall to get things done you can name your price. within reason. If you don't get it walk or settle for less. Unions protect non productive people who ride the company into BK. I don't need any Union looking out for my interest thank you very much! Unions create conflict in the work place, An us Vs them enviroment. they did have a purpose once but their days are near the end.

That is pretty much my feelings too.
I am only a passenger on airlines, but in my 22 years of working I've never needed a Union, and never ever seen the benefits of a union.

 

[keeptheodds]

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[AA-MCI]

Looks like he's finally lost it.

 

[sentrido]

log book sighn off practice.

 

[Checking it Out]

Has Amfa again miss-judged NWA ability to replace the mechanics? All indications are the timing of a strike is going to be Amfa's downfall. With oil and now talks about additional concessions, where will it stop?

Amfa lacks the money, resources and political clout to stop NWA. or will amfa try to save face by submitting the last offer to the strikers for a vote?

Time is ticking, over 50% of their members failed to save money for a strike. How long will it take to be on the street before they catch up to the rest of the industry, who have taken concessions?

Is it time for delle to retire and let the new officers take over?

 

[NWA/AMT]

...over 50% of their members failed to save money for a strike...

[post="294467"][/post]​

I'd be interested to know where you came by that statistic. Every NWA mechanic I know has been preparing for this for years.

 

[AMFAMAN]

I'd be interested to know where you came by that statistic. Every NWA mechanic I know has been preparing for this for years.

[post="294479"][/post]​

Between AMFANUTS and drinking too much 3.2 Beer, CIO comes up with this crap. Notice at no point did he say that he will be picketing and supporting unionism.

 

[Hackman]

Has Amfa again miss-judged NWA ability to replace the mechanics? All indications are the timing of a strike is going to be Amfa's downfall. With oil and now talks about additional concessions, where will it stop?

Amfa lacks the money, resources and political clout to stop NWA. or will amfa try to save face by submitting the last offer to the strikers for a vote?

Time is ticking, over 50% of their members failed to save money for a strike. How long will it take to be on the street before they catch up to the rest of the industry, who have taken concessions?

Is it time for delle to retire and let the new officers take over?

[post="294467"][/post]​

Everytime you open your yapper cio, you manage to shove your twu foot in even further. Funny how can run your mouth here but never in a meeting.

"Timing of a strike"...would you care to explain what your beloved twu International cowards would have done? My educated guess is they would have done what "Knobby the iam Knothead" wants. Bring this abomination back to a vote and recommend.... "Vote yes to save your job!"....add a Jim Little company man scare tactic... "We're going to Chapter 7 liquidation!" and then blame the whole mess on the membership because "You voted for it!". Sound about right? Sure does.

In case you think concessions are over for AA, I'll wager the costs of your next careless accident and the requisit rounds of doctor bills.... it is not over. Like the iam's Depace scab, that thinks he can make a deal with the Red Tail Devil and come out unscathed, your delusional beyond belief cio.

Tell me smart guy, why did the iam not stop US Air from raping the iam membership no less than three times? Don't they have the vaunted "afl-cio political clout" along with a 100 attorneys on retainer? Yet they failed.... Three times!!! How about UAL? Sold out the whole iam contract! Unlimited outsourcing, closed both maintenance bases, left a unenforcable scorched earth contract before being booted by AMFA. What happened to the afl-cio clout here? Hmmm.....

The bottom line is AMFA had no choice but to strike. Sooner or later, all unions will be facing this decision if NWA management is successful with they're vile scab plan. If the twu is still under the man's desk at AA, another record sellout will be at hand. The twu International cowards will never strike AA...you know it...so do I.

Since the twu has had concessions since 1983, NWA AMFA members will have to be on the street a couple of years or more to catch up with the twu sellouts at AA. How do you speculate 50% did not save money? Another dumb cio statement for the record..

I think its time for you to retire, your feeble mind needs a break.

 

[jetmechdelta39]

I think management wants to turn aviation into mass transit. Aircraft are not buses and can not just pull over when broke.Most of the scabs have worked for contractors around the country because they were not good enough to work for the airlines,now the bottom of the barrel are keeping our puplic safe i do not think sur industry is at a turning point and i salute the NWA mechanics for what they are doing because our safety as well as our future it seems is dependent now on them.May god bless you and your family's and god willing punish the low life scum who threaten our livelyhood.

 

[Hopeful]

Has Amfa again miss-judged NWA ability to replace the mechanics? All indications are the timing of a strike is going to be Amfa's downfall. With oil and now talks about additional concessions, where will it stop?

Amfa lacks the money, resources and political clout to stop NWA. or will amfa try to save face by submitting the last offer to the strikers for a vote?

Time is ticking, over 50% of their members failed to save money for a strike. How long will it take to be on the street before they catch up to the rest of the industry, who have taken concessions?

Is it time for delle to retire and let the new officers take over?

[post="294467"][/post]​

Hey CIO, when Delle retires, at least there will be an election to replace him. UNLIKE the TWU who APPOINTS all their ass licking cronies to the "good" positions!

 

[AMFAMAN]

The truth from a newspaper for once.


Northwest mechanics on strike to save U.S. middle class
http://www.dfwpeople.com/papers/bill.pdf



DFWPEOPLE AUGUST 25, 2005
VOLUME 32, NO. 9 24 PAGES
Northwest mechanics on strike to save U.S. middle class
Northwest Airlines aircraft mechanics are walking
the picket line. But it’s not for more pay or better
working conditions.
• They’re walking the picket line because they
were willing to take a 16 percent pay cut.
• They’re walking the picket line to save some
2,000 jobs of their colleagues, and, they say,
• They’re walking the picket line to preserve an
American middle class under siege.
AMFA (Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association)
represents 4,427 aircraft mechanics, cleaners
and custodians. The company has stated it wants
the mechanics to take a 26 percent pay cut. And the
company wants to slash another 2,000 out of the
maintenance workforce.
Some American Airlines mechanics joined
Northwest mechanics in the demonstration Saturday
(August 20) at DFW International Airport. Aircraft
mechanics fear that the airlines are trying to return to
profitability by sending maintenance jobs overseas.
Do you remember Ross Perot Sr.’s “giant sucking
sound†prediction? What Perot termed as the
“sucking sound†was, he explained back in the early
1980s, the sound of American jobs leaving the country.
He also predicted Americans would become a
nation of people selling each other hamburgers.
Northwest Airlines mechanics believe their
company wants to eventually shut down all its maintenance
bases. Many of them believe the company
wishes to retain only line mechanics –– these are the
people who work on airplanes parked on the ramp at
airports. They take care of any problems that may
occur during daily service.
We can see both sides of the argument. With
the price of jet fuel escalating there is a need to cut
costs. Labor does indeed come much cheaper in
Asian countries. But taking U.S. jobs overseas is
only a short term solution for one company’s bottom
line.
The ongoing trend of exporting jobs overseas
where labor is cheap can only spell disaster for the
United States in the long term. With more and more
work exported overseas, how can this country sustain
its economy? With more and more people out of
work or forced into low paying jobs where is the
money coming from to pay for all these foreign
produced goods and services?
Is work performed overseas as good as that
performed in this country?
The FAA (Federal Aviation Administration)
demands that before anyone in this country works on
a commercial aircraft they must pass an exam to earn
a government license called the A&P (aircraft and
powerplant). These A&P licensed people have to
write up any work they perform on an aircraft, no
matter how rudimentary, and sign their names to the
work. These work sheets are carefully filed. In the
event anything goes awry with the work to which
they are assigned they will be answering questions at
an inquiry. If an investigation uncovers inadequate
workmanship, the federal license is pulled.
A&P mechanics are paid a reasonable wage.
Haven’t they earned it?
If these people’s fears are warranted and that
U.S. airlines are now looking at maintenance bases
overseas to perform work on, their jets –– thus
wiping out a U.S. profession –– what guarantees do
the public have they are flying in a perfectly maintained
aircraft? Do these same aircraft
mechanics overseas have to
go through the same training? Are
they expected to accept the responsibility
of every piece of work
they perform? How are they accountable
to U.S. citizens who will
fly in these airplanes?
On a larger scale, the possible
elimination of just this one
profession is another nail in the
coffin of the great U.S. economy.
Way back Henry Ford paid
his workers $5 a day! When his
fellow corporate brothers complained
pointing out that if Ford
were going to pay his workers
monstrous wages they eventually
would be forced to follow. Ford is
said to responded: “I want them to
be able to afford my cars.â€
The United States of America
was the first country in the world
where just the average citizen could
afford a car.
Economists tell us that it is
the circulation of cash that creates
a dynamic economy. Northwest
Airlines mechanics top out at
$35.89 per hour. This means they
earn about $74,000 per year. Not
great, maybe, for the skills they
must demonstrate and the responsibility
they must bear. But, enough
to afford a comfortable vehicle, a
house, TV, home computer and all
the appliances.
Thus this person helps support
the car salesman, the car
worker, the real estate salesman
and the guys, who build the homes,
etc., etc.
But, you cut his wages by 26
percent and he’ll be bringing home
$55,000 per year.
Just as his company chopped
his wages, he’s going to have to
chop the money he is accustomed
to spending. The car will have to
last a little longer. And the next
model he buys won’t be top of the
line. So this hurts the car manufacturer
and, going on down the line,
the car worker, and the restaurant
owner, and on, and on, down the
line...

 

[Checking it Out]

Press Release Source: Northwest Airlines


Northwest Airlines Company Statement on AMFA'S Decision to Discontinue Negotiations
Sunday September 11, 5:09 pm ET


EAGAN, Minn., Sept. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines today issued the following statement regarding the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association's (AMFA) decision to discontinue contract negotiations with the company:


We are disappointed that AMFA leadership has broken off talks with Northwest Airlines. The company had hoped that AMFA membership would have had the opportunity to vote on the airline's latest proposal.

Northwest remains willing to negotiate with AMFA to reach a consensual agreement.

As we have previously stated, the economic pressures affecting the airline, particularly the skyrocketing cost of fuel, have intensified.

Our latest proposal calling for $203 million in annual savings from our AMFA-represented employees is consistent with the new labor-cost savings that the company now is seeking from all of its employees.

The company's proposal included severance that was equal to the maximum amount available to any Northwest contract employee. The severance proposal would have allowed our AMFA-represented employees to be furloughed to continue to receive a paycheck through the end of the year.

As we advised AMFA last Tuesday, we will begin hiring permanent replacements for the striking AMFA technicians beginning September 13.

The airline continues to run normally and the current mix of FAA-licensed Northwest managers, contract technicians and third-party vendors continue to reliably meet the needs of Northwest's customers.


Where does this leave Amfa? Replacements will be hired shortly and what is interesting! The Line Mechanic's are the first to go!

 

[Emil.Howes]

Press Release Source: Northwest Airlines
Northwest Airlines Company Statement on AMFA'S Decision to Discontinue Negotiations
Sunday September 11, 5:09 pm ET
EAGAN, Minn., Sept. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines today issued the following statement regarding the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association's (AMFA) decision to discontinue contract negotiations with the company:


We are disappointed that AMFA leadership has broken off talks with Northwest Airlines. The company had hoped that AMFA membership would have had the opportunity to vote on the airline's latest proposal.

Northwest remains willing to negotiate with AMFA to reach a consensual agreement.

As we have previously stated, the economic pressures affecting the airline, particularly the skyrocketing cost of fuel, have intensified.

Our latest proposal calling for $203 million in annual savings from our AMFA-represented employees is consistent with the new labor-cost savings that the company now is seeking from all of its employees.

The company's proposal included severance that was equal to the maximum amount available to any Northwest contract employee. The severance proposal would have allowed our AMFA-represented employees to be furloughed to continue to receive a paycheck through the end of the year.

As we advised AMFA last Tuesday, we will begin hiring permanent replacements for the striking AMFA technicians beginning September 13.

The airline continues to run normally and the current mix of FAA-licensed Northwest managers, contract technicians and third-party vendors continue to reliably meet the needs of Northwest's customers.
Where does this leave Amfa? Replacements will be hired shortly and what is interesting! The Line Mechanic's are the first to go!

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CIO,

At least you have a job!!!
Maybe you can scab part time!!
Looser!!!

-BigE

 

[Hackman]

A nutless coward like Cio :blink: would be the first to scab for the man. He hasn't got the guts to stand up for for himself, let alone for his craft, as many have witnessed in Tulsa.

When it come time for fight, he would be the first to run and hide. :unsure:

 

[Checking it Out]

As many are aware, I have watched Amfa make bad decisions one right after the other for many years and have ripped the Solidarity out of many Unions. In order for Amfa to get in, they have followed the play book from the companies. "How to break a Union" History has shown Amfa lacks the ability to negotiate once they start collecting dues.

As for crossing a picket line, I don't think so.

It seems to me! Many of my TWU Brothers and Sisters have successfully kept the membership informed about the downfalls of Amfa! So who is the winners or losers?