Obama Scandals

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PS: To Dell...Had little Georgey junior really wanted to fight in Viet Nam...it'd wouldn't have been any problem at all for him to volunteer for active duty there and go. He's just another pathetic little puzzy.

Part you missed is he did.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

"fight the tyranny"..? That would've required a spine, which was demonstrated as absent with the notions of running away to canada in the first place. BTW; If you had one, you wouldn't be much concerned with such trifles as "the punishment for that is a lot worse than being called a deserter. "

"They were bad and Hussein was a evil man." Do you believe otherwise?

"Then in 2003 we do....THE EXACT SAME THING TO IRAQ." Wasn't Saddam still in power?....Stupidly left so by the inept ending of Desert Storm?

I don't defend the stupidity within government...ever, but always find it offensive that people actually exist who have elevated Cowardice into some sort of supposed "virtue", as do yourself and Newhampshire here.

PS: To Dell...Had little Georgey junior really wanted to fight in Viet Nam...it'd wouldn't have been any problem at all for him to volunteer for active duty there and go. He's just another pathetic little puzzy.

Ahhh.
The Sanctimonious D-BAG has Returned.
You got a LOT of 'stones....questioning KCF's patriotism. HOW do you know he's not patriotic ?
Do you know him ? Ever met the man ? ............I HAVE !!!!!

I believe he was making the point that our beloved 'cooler is LOADED with a significant number of LEMMINGS. A belief I strongly share as well.
(SORRY KCF for jumping in to defend you, when not called to do so) (My Bad)

We ran away from the British because of thier world wide 'meddling', only to become a carbon copy of them.

'WAKE T-F UP' !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[KCFlyer]

"Then in 2003 we do....THE EXACT SAME THING TO IRAQ." Wasn't Saddam still in power?....Stupidly left so by the inept ending of Desert Storm?

Yep he was still in power. What did he do to us though? He didn't invade Kuwait again...he was just sitting there being bad, as countless other third world dictators did. He was just sitting there being his bad old self...not doing anything...and WE move in for his oil. Just like he went after Kuwaits oil.

I never liked W's dad for fishing and golfing during Desert Storm...didn't think it was right to have a president taking vacation time so soon after commiting troops. But I have to give him credit - his goal was to get Saddam out of Kuwait...in that he accomplished his mission. I seem to recall that most US troops returned home pretty shortly after the end of that one.

 

[KCFlyer]

Another one of your bullsh!t stories. Why don't you try doing a little research before running your mouth.

The controversy over Bush’s service centers on what his critics call “the period in question,” that is, the time from May 1972 until May 1973. What is not mentioned as often is that that period was in fact Bush’s fifth year in the Guard, one that followed four years of often intense service.

Bush joined in May 1968. He went through six weeks of basic training — a full-time job — at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Then he underwent 53 weeks of flight training — again, full time — at Moody Air Force Base in Valdosta, Ga. Then he underwent 21 weeks of fighter interceptor training — full time — at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Counting other, shorter, postings in between, by the end of his training period Bush had served two years on active duty.

Certified to fly the F-102 fighter plane, Bush then began a period of frequent — usually weekly — flying. The F-102 was designed to shoot down other fighter planes, and the missions Bush flew were training flights, mostly over the Gulf of Mexico and often at night, in which pilots took turns being the predator and the prey.”If you’re going to practice how to shoot down another airplane, then you have to have another airplane up there to work on,” recalls retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971. “He’d be the target for the first half of the mission, and then we’d switch.”
During that period Bush’s superiors gave him consistently high ratings as a pilot. “Lt. Bush is an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer,” wrote one in a 1972 evaluation. Another evaluation, in 1971, called Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further.” And a third rating, in 1970, said Bush “clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot” and was also “a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership.”

All that flying involved quite a bit of work. “Being a pilot is more than just a monthly appearance,” says Bob Harmon, a former Guard pilot who was a member of Bush’s group in 1971 and 1972. “You cannot maintain your currency by doing just one drill a month. He was flying once or twice a week during that time, from May of 1971 until May of 1972.” While the work was certainly not as dangerous as fighting in the jungles of Vietnam, it wasn’t exactly safe, either. Harmon remembers a half-dozen Texas Air National Guard fliers who died in accidents over the years, in cluding one during the time Bush was flying. “This was not an endeavor without risk,” Harmon notes. . . .

The president’s critics have charged that he did not show up for service — was “AWOL” — in Alabama. Bush says he did serve, and his case is supported by records showing that he was paid and given retirement credit for days of service while he was known to be in Alabama. The records also show that Bush received a dental examination on January 6, 1973, at Dannelly Air National Guard base, home of the 187th (January 6 was one of the days that pay records show Bush receiving credit for service). And while a number of Guard members at the base say they do not remember seeing Bush among the roughly 900 men who served there during that time, another member, a retired lieutenant named John Calhoun, says he remembers seeing Bush at the base several times.

What seems most likely is that Bush was indeed at Dannelly, but there was not very much for a non-flying pilot to do. Flying fighter jets involves constant practice and training; Bush had to know when he left Texas that he would no longer be able to engage in either one very often, which meant that he would essentially leave flying, at least for some substantial period of time. In addition, the 187th could not accommodate another pilot, at least regularly. “He was not going to fly,” says Turnipseed. “We didn’t have enough airplanes or sorties to handle our own pilots, so we wouldn’t have done it for some guy passing through.”

On the other hand, showing up for drills was still meeting one’s responsibility to the Guard. And, as 1973 went along, the evidence suggests that Bush stepped up his work to make up for the time he had missed earlier. In April of that year, he received credit for two days; in May, he received credit for 14 days; in June, five days; and in July, 19 days. That was the last service Bush performed in the Guard. Later that year, he asked for and received permission to leave the Guard early so he could attend Harvard Business School. He was given an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months, and five days of his original six-year commitment.

http://old.nationalr...00402180840.asp

And when Bush farts it smells like a rose garden in the room.

 

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And when Bush farts it smells like a rose garden in the room.

Pssst.......26th Marine expeditionary force in Aqaba for 'drills' .....Bush did it.

 

[southwind]

We ran away from the British because of thier world wide 'meddling', only to become a carbon copy of them.

'WAKE T-F UP' !!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing beats making sh!t up !

 

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I never liked W's dad for fishing and golfing during Desert Storm...didn't think it was right to have a president taking vacation time so soon after commiting troops.

But Obama disappears watching porn while Americans were fighting for their lives in Benghazi was ok.

 

[KCFlyer]

But Obama disappears watching porn while Americans were fighting for their lives in Benghazi was ok.

Yep...Obama was out of the room when 4 Americans died in Ben Gayzee. Bush sent 5,000 Americans to their deaths and took 80 brush clearing vacations to Crawford, yet not a fraction of the outrage. Wonder why.

 

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Yep...Obama was out of the room when 4 Americans died in Ben Gayzee. Bush sent 5,000 Americans to their deaths and took 80 brush clearing vacations to Crawford, yet not a fraction of the outrage. Wonder why.

How long did it take for 5000 to die?

24 hours like Obama?

Chu Hoi Flyer

 

[KCFlyer]

How long did it take for 5000 to die?

24 hours like Obama?

Chu Hoi Flyer

Admittedly longer than the "5 or 6 months...certainly not more than that" estimation given by our war council at the time.

 

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Heard someone found his birth certificate and it doesn't look good.

 

[southwind]

Yep...Obama was out of the room when 4 Americans died in Ben Gayzee. Bush sent 5,000 Americans to their deaths and took 80 brush clearing vacations to Crawford, yet not a fraction of the outrage. Wonder why.

Last time I checked, 2 of the 4 dead, in Benghazi, didn't sign up for hazard duty, unlike your 5000!

 

[KCFlyer]

Last time I checked, 2 of the 4 dead, in Benghazi, didn't sign up for hazard duty, unlike your 5000!

OH...so if you volunteer, it's okay for your commander in chief to send you ANYWHERE his little heart desires, whether it's an offensive invasion based on lies or not....you volunteered....suckah. HOw many yellow ribbons did you have on YOUR car?

 

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OH...so if you volunteer, it's okay for your commander in chief to send you ANYWHERE his little heart desires, whether it's an offensive invasion based on lies or not....you volunteered....suckah. HOw many yellow ribbons did you have on YOUR car?

Its not up to you to decide what intentions the United States of America has.....only for you to report to duty as directed.

 

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Wenn jeder wie dieser mein Freund dachte, wo würden wir heute sein?