Rumor has it DL PHL-LHR

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  1. 700UW

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    From another aviation enthusiast web page:
     
    PHL-LHR 1904-0730 75W D
    LHR-PHL 1230-1601 75W D
     
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  2. robbedagain

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    I bet they wont have it as long given US/AA and BA
     
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  3. jcw

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    Impossible - DL will have the highest profitability on this route by some measurement dreamed up by someone
     
    It will be a 757 flown point to point with no real opportunity for connecting traffic on either end of the route
     
    It will be going up against a BA 787, BA 767, and 2 US A330's - so the DL B757 will drive this down to probably one A318 flown by BA in a years time as DL has a strong position in any market in enters or flies
     
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  4. WorldTraveler

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    this was an EU required divestiture for the AA/US merger.
    unless UA wants it, DL or Virgin Atlantic is the only real alternative.

    it is a strategically important route... an opportunity that wouldn't have arisen otherwise


    the next two most strategic routes that DL/VS routes are IAH and DFW to LHR. Virgin does well on the coasts but not so well in the middle of the US.

    update... the flight is available for sale on delta.com
     
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  5. jcw

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    Great - we will see UA leave the IAH/LHR market and BA/AA leave the DFW/LHR market
     
    Hail to DL, Hail to DL
     
    Another good strategy of having no real connection options on the either sides of those routes
     
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    How's that MIA-LHR route working out for DL?

    PHL has never been strategically important for anyone except US. Even there, it's doubtful.
     
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    MIA-LHR is working pretty good.  JV with Virgin no ?  
     
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  8. 700UW

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    http://airlineroute.net/2012/02/24/dl-lon-apr12/
     
    Update at 0400GMT 24FEB12
    As per 24FEB12 GDS Inventory display, DELTA from 17APR12 is adjusting service to London. Atlanta – London Gatwick and Miami – London Heathrow service will be cancelled starting this date (London departure from 18APR12).
    DELTA first entered London market with Gatwick service since 1978, and Miami – London Heathrow service was launched in March 2011. Reservation for these routes are now closed.
    Schedule:

    Atlanta – London Gatwick (Airline previously planned to change to A330-200 from 16MAY12)
    DL012 ATL1725 – 0700+1LGW 767 D
    DL011 LGW0900 – 1300ATL 767 D
    Miami – London Heathrow
    DL260 MIA1820 – 0830+1LHR 767 D
    DL261 LHR1030 – 1530MIA 767 D
     
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    :D

    If history is any guide, we'll see some very cheap business class fare specials to LHR this year, ala the $1,500 MIA-LHR return sale of 2011 as DL found it had to give away seats to fill them from MIA.  
     
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  10. BABABOOY

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    and ? 
    A lot has changed from 2012 no?   
    Delta has a JV in place with Virgin.
    Looking at random date in june
    DL/VA JV is showing 
     
    JFK - 8 daily
    LAX  3 daily
    ATL  3 daily
    EWR 2 daily
    DTW 2 daily
    BOS 2 daily
    MIA- 1 daily
    MSP 1 daily
    PHL  1 daily
    SEA  1 daily
    IAD   1 daily
    ORD 1 daily
    SFO  1 daily
     
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    Which doesn't tell us a whole lot.  Are those departures from those airports or to those airports?  If from those airports, then to where?  If its 3 daily departures from JFK to BUF and 5 to CMH, it's not so very strategic regardless of what WT might spin up.
     
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  12. BABABOOY

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    I thought due to the discussion it was pretty obvious that we are talking flights to LHR.
     
    I guess it was lost on some..
     
  13. FWAAA

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    So how, exactly, does the joint venture with VS help ensure success on PHL-LHR?   

    Despite the AA/BA joint venture,  AA/BA hasn't begun DTW-LHR or CVG-LHR or MSP-LHR.   
     
    VS flies to a few places beyond LHR, offering theoretical connection opportunities, but DL already flies nonstop to nearly all of them.  
     
  14. BABABOOY

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    Delta is finally competing with AA and UAL
    in their own front yards. 
    Look what Delta is doing at EWR
    and now at PHL.
    Delta is sharing cost/revenue with Virgin.  
    evidently Delta has been able to capture enough 
    passengers in the PHL, Delaware and southern/central NJ
    area to offer 2 transatlantic flights.  Both with Joint Ventures. 
    and who knows what corporate contracts Delta has signed in
    this area.  
    More choice for flyers.  
    I have been hearing, and the numbers are showing, that those customers utilizing
    Delta out of EWR to AMS/CDG are loving the alternative to UAL.  The new EWR-LHR should be no
    different and neither should PHL-LHR.
     
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  15. zethya

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    You will eat those words next year.
     
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