Southwest Affect still working

Discussion in 'Southwest Airlines/Airtran Airways' started by swamt, May 20, 2014.

  1. SharoninSAT

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    Have a Great 4th of July everyone!!!  :)
     
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    Does WN still do the program where you do someone else's job for a day? Might be a good time to see what life is like for an agent in NAS. :)
     
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    Thx Sharon, and the same to you...
     
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  4. SharoninSAT

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    Good idea Kev! We still have that program. It's called "Walk-A-Mile". Employees will not be able to non rev
    on SW to our international destinations until Nov. Looking forward to it. Now if we want to purchase a ticket... :)
     
    Thanks swamt. It was good... :)  
     
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  5. WorldTraveler

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    wow.... a non-rev embargo to the int'l destinations!

    are all of these cities fully staffed by WN employees?

    what is the status of the company's request to outsource some int'l stations?
     
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  6. swamt

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    Nego are still an ongoing issue...
     
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    are you saying the company is willing to block interline travel relationships as part of labor negotiations?
     
    and the same can be said whenever more capacity is added to a market.

    We could just as easily say that the "AA effect" has pushed fares down from the US to Asia.
     
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    let's be clear that the Southwest effect is nothing more than the same price/demand principles that worked in the airline and other industries long before WN came along.

    When prices are lowered for many types of products and services, demand increases. WN has simply had low enough costs to undercut legacy carriers and WN has focused its growth where it can get the biggest bang for new service compared to existing fares and the costs of legacy carriers in those markets.

    DAL is exactly that type of growth that WN has engaged in - high average fare markets in a market that has been dominated by a fairly high cost legacy carrier.

    DOT data shows that WN has stimulated demand from DAL in its new long-haul domestic markets thru low fares - exactly what it did with STL and MCI - and has pulled some traffic over to WN but has increased the size of the pie even while reducing fares for the larger N. Texas market.

    Interestingly, one of the markets where WN has had the greatest impact not just on AA's share and average fares but also where WN has created one of its largest markets is Chicago where WN and AA compete in the market to different airports in both cities.
     
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    it works kind of like the People's Express effect and the Laker Airways effect, right?
     
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  13. SharoninSAT

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    I'm all for that !!!  :)
     
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  14. swamt

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    Hi Sharon.
    According to a couple articles I read this morning Canada is the #1 international travel location from the US.  Canada will be a big deal once we announce.  Just wish we could get those planes alot faster. Were still picking up used A/C something like 30-40 thus far...
     
    US Airlines To Face Record Traffic This Summer:...
     
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    DL and UA execs both noted yesterday at an investor conference that pricing in the N. Texas area is well below demand and not in line with other parts of the US.

    http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/analyst-dallas-love-field-situation-getting-uglier-by-the-day.html/

    DL says it has no intention of leaving DAL in one month and also just hired a new Chief Legal Officer that was name "Antitrust lawyer of the year" in 2013 and has extensive corporate trial experience.

    DL has clearly beefed up its legal dept. for some major cases. DAL might just be one of them.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-names-peter-carter-executive-203000040.html
     

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