Please take your DL hatefest to another thread. The topic here is "Survey shows Delta lags behind on brand respect", not the IAM, profit sharing or F/A pay at other airlines. You aren't an F/A, never have been, or never worked for DL.
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Survey shows Delta lags behind on "brand respect"
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Please take your DL hatefest to another thread. The topic here is "Survey shows Delta lags behind on brand respect", not the IAM, profit sharing or F/A pay at other airlines. You aren't an F/A, never have been, or never worked for DL.
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You gonna follow suit with your nonstop "hatefest" of the IAM?
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I'm sure DL and the No Way IAM group will go out of their way to showcase the IAM T/A with the highest medical premiums and worst scope in the entire industry. The IAM only cares about dues, the DL employees won't stand for their BS.
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Hey 700 you better go do damage control, the No Way AFA Group has people blasting the IAM for selling out the TWA FA's.
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thanks 700 for the link very interesting and thanks kev josh to be straight up forward the iam is not all as bad as you make it out i mean there is always the good the bad and the ugly but since the nc team has taken over in 2008 at least for the us side things are becoming increasingly very interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks n months as for the dl fa.s ive long heard they want to become union but dl is like the walmart of the air they hate labor unions how long did it take their pilots to get their current deals
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Truth.
Really quick, actually. In fact, IIRC, they've signed 3 total since the merger (including integration). Given how fast these deals came, it's ironic how much the company still tries to use the "negotiations could drag on for years" fear tactic.
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so true kev but of course most donkeys at companies like us use the stall tatic esp when they employee a higer powered donkey or mule like allen "i hate labor" hemmoraging hemmingway
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sorry guys but I am going to challenge the notion that DL hates unions. DL wants to run an efficient airline where the employees are focused on doing their jobs and doing them well and that is why DL PAYS A PREMIUM to its employees FOR THEM TO CHOOSE to remain non-union.
It has always been DL employees right to choose and that remained the case even after the voting rules were changed post-NW merger. DL employees have consistently said at the ballot box that there enough to be gained from a union compared to what the company offers directly to be worth it.
IN contrast, we have abundant examples of acrimonious labor-mgmt. relations where unions are involved, including the long, drawn-out process of getting any pay raises or improvement - and as we have seen with the case of AA and US over the past ten years, labor has lost far more than what other carriers have gained -union or not. The notion that a union translates into higher pay is not at all born out but there is a very high correlation among the network carriers to labor-mgmt. animosity and unionization.
Wal-Mart may hate unions but they manage to sustain their business model because they get people to work for so little.
All Wal-Mart employees would have to do to improve their pay is stop accepting the low wages the company offers and then genuinely demonstrate that they will push for unionization. Wal-Mart knows the majority of its workers are content to pick up a little cash at low wages with little to no benefits which is why Wal-Mart succeeds at what it does.
DL is on the complete opposite extreme by having compensation on average better than its network airline peers.
It has always been DL employees right to choose and that remained the case even after the voting rules were changed post-NW merger. DL employees have consistently said at the ballot box that there enough to be gained from a union compared to what the company offers directly to be worth it.
IN contrast, we have abundant examples of acrimonious labor-mgmt. relations where unions are involved, including the long, drawn-out process of getting any pay raises or improvement - and as we have seen with the case of AA and US over the past ten years, labor has lost far more than what other carriers have gained -union or not. The notion that a union translates into higher pay is not at all born out but there is a very high correlation among the network carriers to labor-mgmt. animosity and unionization.
Wal-Mart may hate unions but they manage to sustain their business model because they get people to work for so little.
All Wal-Mart employees would have to do to improve their pay is stop accepting the low wages the company offers and then genuinely demonstrate that they will push for unionization. Wal-Mart knows the majority of its workers are content to pick up a little cash at low wages with little to no benefits which is why Wal-Mart succeeds at what it does.
DL is on the complete opposite extreme by having compensation on average better than its network airline peers.
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