Ted Goes To Washington!

I guess LAS/FLL/TPA/ORL aren't selling enough international F/J tickets to warrant flying an F cabin to those cities. I would like to see Ted replace ACA on IAD-MSY. Thats a long RJ route...
 
LAS, FLL, MCO, TPA are probably preemptive moves against ACA. As for IAD-MSY, I'm not sure it will go back to mainline service, but I have heard from DCA pilots that 737 flying is going to increase heading into the spring.
 
Actually, United's current IAD-MSY service consists of one daily mainline nonstop round trip plus two daily ACA CRJ nonstop round trips (according to the February 2004 OAG).

I too was expecting Ted to be announced for the IAD-MSY route, for two reasons: (1) MSY was among the initial Ted routes from DEN, and (2) replacing ACA's flights to MSY with Ted now would mean one less ACA CRJ to replace when United drops ACA later this year. Perhaps the route will be given to Ted during the summer.
 
I sure do not know what the plan is; but, I sort of hope UAL will offer "mainline" flights at appropriate time of day for those connecting to the international routes.
 
CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE IN THE AIR:

Independence Air Welcomes The Arrival Of Low Fares At Washington Dulles
Thursday, Febuary 5, 2004 11:18 AM ET

DULLES, Va., Feb. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Atlantic Coast Airlines Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: ACAI, news) and Independence Air today welcomed the announced arrival of United's "Ted" product at Washington Dulles International Airport.
(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/200311...19/DCW018LOGO-a )

With United as the dominant carrier at Washington Dulles, the airport has acquired a reputation for having some of the highest fares in the U.S. But Independence Air will turn Dulles into the largest low-fare hub in America once implemented, with plans to grow quickly to more than 350 flights to 50 destinations up and down the East Coast, to Florida, the Midwest and West Coast.

Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Kerry Skeen said, "We're proud to be part of the transformation of our home airport into what will become one of the great low-fare airports in America, and once Independence Air's schedule of 350 daily low-fare flights is available we think the idea of flying from Dulles will be more popular than ever before."

He added, "We think United's 15 low-fare departures will merely be the appetizer for Independence Air's new 350 flight low-fare all-you-can-fly buffet."

Independence Air service will be provided using a fleet of over 100 jet aircraft fitted with new leather seats, including the fast, quiet 50-seat CRJ and at least 25 new Airbus 319s with free satellite TV available at every seat.

The "preview" website for Independence Air is available now at http://www.flyi.com. Once an official start date for service is announced, customers will be able to make reservations directly on the site. Web visitors who sign up for membership to the i club will receive additional information about Independence Air services, and be offered the opportunity to take advantage of special offers and promotions available only to members.

Atlantic Coast Airlines currently operates as Delta Connection and United Express in the Eastern and Midwestern United States as well as Canada. On July 28, 2003, the company announced plans to operate as Independence Air -- an independent low-fare airline based at Washington Dulles -- once it ceases to operate as United Express.

The company has a fleet of 145 aircraft -- including a total of 120 regional jets -- and offers 800 daily departures, serving 84 destinations. The company employs approximately 4,400 aviation professionals.

For more information about Atlantic Coast Airlines Holdings, Inc., please visit our website at http://www.atlanticcoast.com. For more information about Independence Air, please visit our "preview" site at http://www.flyi.com.
 
TravelDude said:
CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE IN THE AIR:

Independence Air Welcomes The Arrival Of Low Fares At Washington Dulles
Thursday, Febuary 5, 2004 11:18 AM ET

DULLES, Va., Feb. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Atlantic Coast Airlines Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: ACAI, news) and Independence Air today welcomed the announced arrival of United's "Ted" product at Washington Dulles International Airport.
(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/200311...19/DCW018LOGO-a )

With United as the dominant carrier at Washington Dulles, the airport has acquired a reputation for having some of the highest fares in the U.S. But Independence Air will turn Dulles into the largest low-fare hub in America once implemented, with plans to grow quickly to more than 350 flights to 50 destinations up and down the East Coast, to Florida, the Midwest and West Coast.

Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Kerry Skeen said, "We're proud to be part of the transformation of our home airport into what will become one of the great low-fare airports in America, and once Independence Air's schedule of 350 daily low-fare flights is available we think the idea of flying from Dulles will be more popular than ever before."

He added, "We think United's 15 low-fare departures will merely be the appetizer for Independence Air's new 350 flight low-fare all-you-can-fly buffet."

Independence Air service will be provided using a fleet of over 100 jet aircraft fitted with new leather seats, including the fast, quiet 50-seat CRJ and at least 25 new Airbus 319s with free satellite TV available at every seat.

The "preview" website for Independence Air is available now at http://www.flyi.com. Once an official start date for service is announced, customers will be able to make reservations directly on the site. Web visitors who sign up for membership to the i club will receive additional information about Independence Air services, and be offered the opportunity to take advantage of special offers and promotions available only to members.

Atlantic Coast Airlines currently operates as Delta Connection and United Express in the Eastern and Midwestern United States as well as Canada. On July 28, 2003, the company announced plans to operate as Independence Air -- an independent low-fare airline based at Washington Dulles -- once it ceases to operate as United Express.

The company has a fleet of 145 aircraft -- including a total of 120 regional jets -- and offers 800 daily departures, serving 84 destinations. The company employs approximately 4,400 aviation professionals.

For more information about Atlantic Coast Airlines Holdings, Inc., please visit our website at http://www.atlanticcoast.com. For more information about Independence Air, please visit our "preview" site at http://www.flyi.com.
What a brat of an airline, and what a brash CEO (Skeen).

ACA will get its comeuppance.
 
So it is OK for Ted to be quirky, edgy and cheeky in their marketing and advertising, but when a competitor does it its not cool?
:blink:
 
HPearlyretiree said:
So it is OK for Ted to be quirky, edgy and cheeky in their marketing and advertising, but when a competitor does it its not cool?
:blink:
Correct me if I am wrong, but to my knowledge...Ted has not directly (named) attacked another carrier in public news releases or marketing.
 
Well, it looks like ACAI is not getting any support from the investment community:


Vanguard's Stake In Atlantic Coast Airlines Cut To 4.85% Link:
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/040203/1307001007_2.html

Actually, Vanguard has now totally liquidated their position in ACAI.

Franklin Resources Liquidates Atlantic Coast Air Stake Link:
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/040204/1224000941_1.html

The institutional money is starting to run away from ACAI. And for good reason:

Atlantic Coast Airlines Reports January 2004 Traffic Link:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040205/dcth055_1.html

Note how YOY RPMs fell 11.1% and ASMs fell 3.1%

Looks like UAL is putting the screws to ACAI. Link:
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/040128/1540001507_1.html


It ain't lookin' good for Indy Air.
 
Ted may not have mentioned names, but marketing is marketing eh?

No law against one company setting a trend by going after another company that is trying to set a trend.

If Ted is gonna be edgy and use guerilla marketing, then they can expect the same marketing back.

Back in the early 90's America West blew it by making a tounge-in-cheek commercial about Southwest by showing SW "customers" wearing paper bags over their heads. Within a week, SW had a counter ad where they were offering their passengers their own paper bags, to fill with the cash they saved by flying on SW.

It was a brilliant strategy
 
46Driver said:
N230UA said:
What a brat of an airline, and what a brash CEO (Skeen).

ACA will get its comeuppance.
Wow, that wasn't nice. What did we ever do to you?
You refused to reduce the rates that you charge to UAL. How many times do I have to remind you of that before it sinks into your cranium case?
You won't find any sympathy from employees who took pay and work rule concessions to keep UAL afloat.