And let's hope they don't axe the pension after you and others retire like the teamsters did twice and asked for a third with no say so from the participants what so ever. They screwed retirees by cutting 1/3 and some by almost 1/2 of their well deserved full payout. It could happen as more and more employees go the 401K routes rather than the losing pensions way. More control by the employees with 401K. And remember, if another BK does come to AA, the pension will be one of the first to reduce by AA, and the courts will allow them to. The courts always back the big companies wishes to rid of pension payments in BK's.