The WORST PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY.. TRUMP

[KCFlyer]

Must be due to the fact that it usually isn't 105 degrees in Texas in the winter. So that means, based on 25% of Texas' power generation coming from windmills, there should have been an abundance of untapped reserve power just sitting there 'blowing in the wind', so to speak,....like another 19% of capacity.....but in the end, when it was needed most, windmills weren't there.
Now windmills have failed in climate extremes, in both Texas and California leaving millions in the dark.

Bring on the green new deal.

So why were the natural gas plants unable to run? Drill baby drill. Hey.,...didn't Ted Cruz lambaste California for their power problems?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

One side wants all solar...the other side wants all fossil fuel. You get nowhere with that kind of thinking. ***** about wind all you want and about how much it costs to build a windmill, which makes them unaffordable. But once they are built, how much do they pay per month for the "fuel" to create the energy that they create? How much do they pay for the gas they use in the gas powered plants? How about for the load of coal that they had to buy to create power from one of those plants? Last I checked, the wind was free, which over the years, might end up costing less.

Fossil fuels are a finite resource and eventually we will HAVE to change. That is an indisputable fact. Believe it or not KCFlyer I do support green energy production but it needs to be a slow natural progression. Not a government mandated goal that we don't yet have the technology to meet. Green tech is not "there" yet but I have no doubt that one day it will be.

There is also the question of infrastructure. Many places can't handle the strain on the electrical grid NOW, you throw millions of electric cars in the mix and you are going to overload the grid.

Speaking of electric cars what do you think that will do to the used car market? I know my first car was a 10 year old beater? Nice thing about a gas powered car is you can buy a 10 year old car (or older!!!) that runs great if it is properly cared for and maintained. You think anyone is going to be interested in buying a 4 to 7 year old car with clapped out batteries? Electric cars will kill the used car market. Nobody wants to buy a car then have to stick another 5k worth of batteries in it. You think cell phones are an electronic waste problem.... you just wait until electric cars take off.

That being said there are 2 technologies being worked on right now I am very excited about.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02895-0
One is an almost room temperature (59 Fahrenheit/15 Celsius) super conductor. This is a super huge deal. I cannot stress what a huge deal this really is. We are talking world changing. Right now scientist don't know exactly why this works but they are studying it There is also the issue this only works under high pressure (2.5M atmospheres) so it is not really practical. But the important thing is now we know it is possible. Once they figure out the why maybe they can manipulate it to make it practical and run at hotter temperatures. If we did go all green this would certainly solve a lot of the problems we are facing.

https://www.wired.com/2009/05/energy-of-the-future-igniting-a-star-with/
Second is the experimentation of fusion right here on Earth to meet our energy needs. Scientist are trying to create a mini sun right here on Earth. My coworker actually has a nephew that went to MIT that is working on doing just this. This may one day provide for all of our energy needs.

You mix green tech with a room temperature super conductor or better yet a sustainable fusion reaction and it will be a whole new landscape for energy.

What you need to know KCFlyer is the Green New Deal is not about the environment or improving your standard of living. It is about transitioning Americans from fossil fuels, a globally traded commodity, to electricity, a government regulated utility. It is about government controlling the means of energy production and consumption. There is nothing benevolent about what the Democrats are trying to do. You have been duped.

This is the biggest scam since government backed student loans (to the tune of 1.6 trillion dollars). Student loans were never about helping people secure an education. They were nothing more than a means to an end to drive a government wedge into private education. Schools compromised their students futures and became centers of propaganda and conditioning for the left.

Why?

1.6 trillion dollars.

Bought and paid for.

Now socialist like "free college" Bernie Sanders want to inflict that private debt (and all future debt) on tax payers, most who never went to college.Tell me what right any individual has to run up a private debt and insist someone else pay it?

Would you like if I took out a $50,000.00 loan for a $15,000.00 car I never drove and handed you my bill? No? Well I don't like being forced (through government mandate) to pay higher taxes to cover a $100,000 debt for an art history or gender studies degree for someone to be a barista at Starbucks.

Just another example of the government offering a "fix" for a problem they created to begin with.

The depths of Democrat stupidity never cease to amaze me. You are so indoctrinated you can't see the obvious even when it is right in front of your dimwitted faces. It would be hilarious if everyone else did not have to suffer the consequences of your stupidity.

I bet all those newly unemployed people in the oil industry have a pretty strong opinion of who the worst president ever is, and I am betting it is not Trump.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Tell me KCFlyer what are people that work with heavy equipment in remote areas supposed to do when we transition to green energy? Now when heavy equipment runs out of fuel a fuel truck comes by and they are up and running in minutes. They run that equipment long hours (in some cases 24/7 over 2 or 3 shifts). What is a heavy equipment operator supposed to do in those circumstances? He does not have the benefit of access to the electrical grid and even if he did he can't afford to have equipment go down for hours for a recharge.

You go tell these guys how great the "Green New Deal" is.

 

[KCFlyer]

Tell me KCFlyer what are people that work with heavy equipment in remote areas supposed to do when we transition to green energy? Now when heavy equipment runs out of fuel a fuel truck comes by and they are up and running in minutes. They run that equipment long hours (in some cases 24/7 over 2 or 3 shifts). What is a heavy equipment operator supposed to do in those circumstances? He does not have the benefit of access to the electrical grid and even if he did he can't afford to have equipment go down for hours for a recharge.

You go tell these guys how great the "Green New Deal" is.

I'm not sure why you are lecturing me on green energy and electric cars. I was talking about the situation in Texas last week.Dell, the Texas Governor and the right wing conservatives seem to be blaming windmills. The private Texas organization that is supposed to be way better than the public run electric companies messed up. So they blame the wind turbines and invoke the magic words "AOC" and "Green New Deal" and they immediately have millions of right wingers hoping on board and talking about how unreliable the wind turbines "that were mandated" believing that they were responsible for Texans going without power in a record cold wave. Hell...eolesen blamed freaking OBAMA for the power outage because of a mandate to phase out coal plants....despite that fact that coal plants still exist in Texas, and there was no mandate to replace them with "green" energy - but to change over to cleaner energy....like natural gas. And if Texas was dumb enough to shut down a coal plant before they had a replacement built, then they kind of deserved what they got. Not sure what the Feds might have against Texas, but in Kansas, they let our power companies transition before shutting them down.

I haven't said anything about using green only energy...I'm only trying to share some facts with folks who believe wind turbines caused the problems in Texas. They didn't. Yeah...some of them froze because they weren't winterized. So did the gas plants AND wells, since Texas doesn't spend much on storage since they have so much right there in the ground that they can pull whenever they need it. Unless we get weather cold enough to freeze a wind turbine that it also disables their ability to get gas out of the ground. That's not the turbines fault.

We have a lot of wind turbines in Kansas (they didn't freeze and temps were almost 20 below). And the way we are today - toss out the words "Green New Deal" and 75 million Americans say they don't want no stinking wind energy. I kind of think it's a nice source as part as a supplement to gas. The word Kansas translates to "people of the south wind" We have a lot of wind that blows across this state. That wind doesn't charge us a dime to blow over the state. So why not put up some windmills and take advantage of that wind? That's one reason they put them in Texas....it wasn't mandated...they wanted to take advantage of the winds in that area. And that wind doesn't charge a dime when it makes the blades of a windmill turn. So they are getting some electricity and the "fuel source" is free. But so many seem to feel that they must be against wind energy because they hear "AOC" or "Green New Deal".

 

[robbedagain]

Fossil fuels are a finite resource and eventually we will HAVE to change. That is an indisputable fact. Believe it or not KCFlyer I do support green energy production but it needs to be a slow natural progression. Not a government mandated goal that we don't yet have the technology to meet. Green tech is not "there" yet but I have no doubt that one day it will be.

There is also the question of infrastructure. Many places can't handle the strain on the electrical grid NOW, you throw millions of electric cars in the mix and you are going to overload the grid.

Speaking of electric cars what do you think that will do to the used car market? I know my first car was a 10 year old beater? Nice thing about a gas powered car is you can buy a 10 year old car (or older!!!) that runs great if it is properly cared for and maintained. You think anyone is going to be interested in buying a 4 to 7 year old car with clapped out batteries? Electric cars will kill the used car market. Nobody wants to buy a car then have to stick another 5k worth of batteries in it. You think cell phones are an electronic waste problem.... you just wait until electric cars take off.

That being said there are 2 technologies being worked on right now I am very excited about.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02895-0
One is an almost room temperature (59 Fahrenheit/15 Celsius) super conductor. This is a super huge deal. I cannot stress what a huge deal this really is. We are talking world changing. Right now scientist don't know exactly why this works but they are studying it There is also the issue this only works under high pressure (2.5M atmospheres) so it is not really practical. But the important thing is now we know it is possible. Once they figure out the why maybe they can manipulate it to make it practical and run at hotter temperatures. If we did go all green this would certainly solve a lot of the problems we are facing.

https://www.wired.com/2009/05/energy-of-the-future-igniting-a-star-with/
Second is the experimentation of fusion right here on Earth to meet our energy needs. Scientist are trying to create a mini sun right here on Earth. My coworker actually has a nephew that went to MIT that is working on doing just this. This may one day provide for all of our energy needs.

You mix green tech with a room temperature super conductor or better yet a sustainable fusion reaction and it will be a whole new landscape for energy.

What you need to know KCFlyer is the Green New Deal is not about the environment or improving your standard of living. It is about transitioning Americans from fossil fuels, a globally traded commodity, to electricity, a government regulated utility. It is about government controlling the means of energy production and consumption. There is nothing benevolent about what the Democrats are trying to do. You have been duped.

This is the biggest scam since government backed student loans (to the tune of 1.6 trillion dollars). Student loans were never about helping people secure an education. They were nothing more than a means to an end to drive a government wedge into private education. Schools compromised their students futures and became centers of propaganda and conditioning for the left.

Why?

1.6 trillion dollars.

Bought and paid for.

Now socialist like "free college" Bernie Sanders want to inflict that private debt (and all future debt) on tax payers, most who never went to college.Tell me what right any individual has to run up a private debt and insist someone else pay it?

Would you like if I took out a $50,000.00 loan for a $15,000.00 car I never drove and handed you my bill? No? Well I don't like being forced (through government mandate) to pay higher taxes to cover a $100,000 debt for an art history or gender studies degree for someone to be a barista at Starbucks.

Just another example of the government offering a "fix" for a problem they created to begin with.

The depths of Democrat stupidity never cease to amaze me. You are so indoctrinated you can't see the obvious even when it is right in front of your dimwitted faces. It would be hilarious if everyone else did not have to suffer the consequences of your stupidity.

I bet all those newly unemployed people in the oil industry have a pretty strong opinion of who the worst president ever is, and I am betting it is not Trump.

In the town hall recently Biden was asked about a 50K student loan wipe away. Biden said flat out no. He even gave example of people including his 3 kids whoe each paird off their loans. Biden p!$$ed off his own party

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

In the town hall recently Biden was asked about a 50K student loan wipe away. Biden said flat out no. He even gave example of people including his 3 kids whoe each paird off their loans. Biden p!$$ed off his own party

Good.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I'm not sure why you are lecturing me on green energy and electric cars.

If you don't why then you are dumber than I thought.

So they blame the wind turbines and invoke the magic words "AOC" and "Green New Deal"

toss out the words "Green New Deal" and 75 million Americans say they don't want no stinking wind energy.

But so many seem to feel that they must be against wind energy because they hear "AOC" or "Green New Deal".

That's because they are smarter than you and recognize a rancid, lying, manipulative ***** when they see one.

I have told you repeatedly (the left) AOC does not give a damn about the American people or the environment, the **** is just attempting a "power grab", literally.

And that wind doesn't charge a dime when it makes the blades of a windmill turn.

If you live in Tornado Alley you know the wind charges an awful lot. You also know how unpredictable it is.

 

[robbedagain]

Good.

I look at it from this perspective.... If u take up courses. Get the job within that degree field pay it off. If you wont do that and take courses why should the taxpayers bail them out. My bro is a prime example n even with his visual impairment and working at THD i made clear to him if something happens to him im not in anyway shape form responsible for his ever growing student loan. But i also feel college costs need to be looked into. I dropped out of a community college in 98 bec i couldn't afford every requirement for it

 

[KCFlyer]

If you don't why then you are dumber than I thought.

That's because they are smarter than you and recognize a rancid, lying, manipulative ***** when they see one.

I have told you repeatedly (the left) AOC does not give a damn about the American people or the environment, the **** is just attempting a "power grab", literally.

If you live in Tornado Alley you know the wind charges an awful lot. You also know how unpredictable it is.

What does any of that have to do with people blaming the problems in Texas on frozen (cancer causing) windmills?

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

KCF. SAVE UR Energy. Clowns like eolesen and La La are not worth UR Time ! They ALWAYS HAVE Excuses, when THEY Step-in-SHITE' !!!!!!!!!!!
La La has OCD over Socialism, and Democrats. (he see them in his Sleep), and since as long as you and I have been on this board, (a Loooooong time) eolesen has ALWAYS thought he's SUPERIOR to GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I look at it from this perspective.... If u take up courses. Get the job within that degree field pay it off. If you wont do that and take courses why should the taxpayers bail them out. My bro is a prime example n even with his visual impairment and working at THD i made clear to him if something happens to him im not in anyway shape form responsible for his ever growing student loan. But i also feel college costs need to be looked into. I dropped out of a community college in 98 bec i couldn't afford every requirement for it

Let me ask you, do you think if the government had not stuck their big fat nose in it college would be as expensive today? Or, do you think they would have to keep the colleges reasonably priced.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

What does any of that have to do with people blaming the problems in Texas on frozen (cancer causing) windmills?

Because the promise of "green energy" is built on a lie perpetuated by leftist democrats attempting to gain government control of the production and usage of energy without any thought as to actual implementation or impact to the American people and businesses.

The "Green New Deal" is not viable. Everyone knows it including AOC. She just does not care.

The state of Texas could have been 100% winterized windmills and solar and they would STILL have issues supplying electricity (in fact it would have been even worse as wind is inconsistent and unpredictable and solar panels need sunlight). Their grid is simply not built to support the demand placed upon it by consumers heating their homes in a statewide freak winter weather storm. Now throw a few million electric cars in the mix and you just made a bad problem worse.

I can't believe I am having to explain this to you again.... dimwit.

I know you said a mixture of solutions would be a good compromise and I agree, but the left is hell bent on transitioning Americans to "green energy" rather it is viable or not. So of course people are going to point out issues regarding green energy rather they are justified or not (like not winterizing windmills).

The other comment I made which you have yet to respond to is how do you justify the expense of winterizing windmills for a natural event that occurs once every few decades? I know Texas can get cold but having a state wide impact is very rare. By the way Oklahoma is having some power issues as well. We have had people without power and/or water for days.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

KCF. SAVE UR Energy. Clowns like eolesen and La La are not worth UR Time ! They ALWAYS HAVE Excuses, when THEY Step-in-SHITE' !!!!!!!!!!!
La La has OCD over Socialism, and Democrats. (he see them in his Sleep), and since as long as you and I have been on this board, (a Loooooong time) eolesen has ALWAYS thought he's SUPERIOR to GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!

I did not step in anything. You just don't like what I have to say because deep down you know I am right.

Bears be honest..... do you really think going 100% green with current technology is viable?

Really?


You accuse me of having OCD over socialism but from my perspective you and KCFlyer have OCD over inflicting socialism on others. I never stated you can't socialize your own money but what makes you feel entitled to insist on socializing mine? I wonder if you and KCFlyer would be so brazen with your entitlement if you did not have "big brother" doing your dirty work for you.

Basically you feel entitled to inflict your GREED upon me in the name of socialism then have the nerve to attack me when I criticize you for it.

I agree with you regarding eolesen's superiority complex but the problem is he is usually right. Annoying I know.

 

[KCFlyer]

Because the promise of "green energy" is built on a lie perpetuated by leftist democrats attempting to gain government control of the production and usage of energy without any thought as to actual implementation or impact to the American people and businesses.

The "Green New Deal" is not viable. Everyone knows it including AOC. She just does not care.

The state of Texas could have been 100% winterized windmills and solar and they would STILL have issues supplying electricity (in fact it would have been even worse as wind is inconsistent and unpredictable and solar panels need sunlight). Their grid is simply not built to support the demand placed upon it by consumers heating their homes in a statewide freak winter weather storm. Now throw a few million electric cars in the mix and you just made a bad problem worse.

I can't believe I am having to explain this to you again.... dimwit.

I know you said a mixture of solutions would be a good compromise and I agree, but the left is hell bent on transitioning Americans to "green energy" rather it is viable or not. So of course people are going to point out issues regarding green energy rather they are justified or not (like not winterizing windmills).

The other comment I made which you have yet to respond to is how do you justify the expense of winterizing windmills for a natural event that occurs once every few decades? I know Texas can get cold but having a state wide impact is very rare. By the way Oklahoma is having some power issues as well. We have had people without power and/or water for days.

Oh...I get it...so rather than say "I think there is room for green energy, but I think that's a little drastic...let's talk about it" It becomes "global warming is a hoax" and you become immediately opposed to ANY form of green energy. Oh yeah...and toss out the bone of AOC and Green New Deal to "support" your argument.

How do you justtify winterinzing equipment for a once in 50 (actually less, but I'll go with it) event? . It's just another cost for the privately run electric grid and the consumer will ultimately pay for it in the form of an additional $5 per month in their electric bill, since the costs would be passed on to the consumer. I wonder how many folks would feel that saving 5 bucks a month is worth the "once in 50 years" monthly electric bill of $10,000? Would businesses feel that saving 5 bucks a month on their electric bill be worth one monthly electric bill of $50,000? When you'r e dealing with something that can impact the lives of millions, maybe winterizing equipment in Texas is money well spent. Why don't we wait until we see how Texans feel about the electric bill they will get in March and then ask if they think it's worth the extra cost.

 

[robbedagain]

Let me ask you, do you think if the government had not stuck their big fat nose in it college would be as expensive today? Or, do you think they would have to keep the colleges reasonably priced.

I think it would be similar either way. I do feel colleges should be reasonably priced.