They asked for the 6th week at 25 years, along with some other adjustments within the vac language. Co. response was, "you guys have enough time off already" and that's because we use our day trades for that, it is not enough vac. I agree, we need one more week like the other airlines get 6 and even 7 weeks with United. It would be smart to leave the ETOP's language alone as suggested by AMFA, matter fact, in order to get a speedier response from the gov to bless for ETOP's just leave all language as is and adjust the economics where they should be and send it out for a vote. That would be the fastest way to a conclusion and maybe even by April as you first suggested. Just still do not want the April to be the contract date, leave it at Aug as is. We can vote and we can make changes. I don't think I can agree with your statement that there will be some changes at the top, all they did was what the membership wanted. Besides, I think the changes made at the table should be what was needed. But do not think that BC will not be putting in his two cents with the new replaced ALR. I know of no such language for professional labor relations degrees. However, I have heard from many guys that they are gonna make motions for professional nego's along with the professional economist be representing or at least advisors during nego's. Not a bad idea to have the proof and back up to show why the ask in numbers and where we stand in pay in direct relation to our CEO's pay. That what our economist did long ago in the very beginning as well as past practices. This way the new co. nego team knows that we are not just pulling numbers out of our arses and air. Hits home a lot better when you can show and prove your point and much harder for the co. to argue it especially with the mediators present. I think we will see some future language changes in the constitution to address your question about professional nego's and economist. Hiring our economist was a great move.