WN Mechanics seek mediation

Discussion in 'Southwest Airlines/Airtran Airways' started by WNMECH, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. swamt

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    Not sure on your question. We have heard some interesting rumors about some action that was taken at the table, will be interesting if they are true.

    Not arguing here at all. I just don't agree with the phrase, do not ever vote yes on the first offer. That completely backfired at some of the other airlines in the past. There has to be more to it, for me, in order to vote it down, not just because it's the first offer, 2nd offer, third or last and final. What is in the body of the offer is what I look at.

    UPS voted in their offer. 94% participated, with 63% voted in favor. Have no number details as of yet but they will be above 65 top out at end.

    No Tim. They did not just rearrange the numbers. Read the updates at www.amfanational.org, they are all there.
    My bad www.amfanational.org

    Starting to get it I see...
     
  2. sendmeupacrowsfoot

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    It looks to me like the company is still trying to achieve that elusive cost-neutral contract.
     
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  3. swamt

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    Forgot to add the link in my response to your question above.
    UPS voted in their contract offer.

    https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr...ith.html/RK=2/RS=KcBsItuP18eK1XSb2NC4sF19r68-
     
  4. B737 driver

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  5. WeAAsles

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    Swamp Rat just AGAIN paid me an unsolicited attack on the AA threads.
     
  6. B737 driver

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    Sorry buddy we have more problems, than you guys do.
     
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  7. swamt

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    Yupper.
    Hopefully we will get it done sometime this year.
    That wasn't a huge ask by the union to make the mechanics whole again, then they added the international outsourcing which will save hundreds of millions, along with 16 hr rule and paid rest, which will also save several millions. But like previous post have indicated, the 16 hr rule won't fly, the PR may or may not I just don't know for sure on that on, the I.O. is a hell no for me. But for most if the co. came with a big payoff I am sure it might get passed like it did last time. Sad but possibly true...
     
  8. swamt

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    BTW; you guys hearing anything at all on the talks? I'm starting to wonder if they aren't still talking. SWA has always refused to meet without the mediators so I doubt it big time.
     
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  9. swamt

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    You whine like a little baby. This is what happens when you jump the gun without waiting for the date to confirm. And then every single thing I said was true, wow, imagine that. Why don't YOU stop trying to make others look bad, wait for the info to come out and see if it's accurate then you can do whatever pleases your corrupt little brain desires...
     
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  10. B737 driver

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    Nope Swampy we got mad and left. I think SWA management is testing our new negotiating team to see if they can get in their heads. I expected this since in my past life I have seen it in system boards arguing grievances.
     
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  11. swamt

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    We will get more info at our local meetings next week.
    Did you read letter from our ND to CEO? We written. I'll post it with the update #73...

    National Director's Letter to SWA CEO Regarding Safety
    February 8, 2019 -- The degradation of Southwest’s aircraft maintenance safety culture has been recognized by the FAA, reputable media sources, and Landon Nitschke himself. Your personal involvement in restoring Southwest’s safety culture is long past due. The CBS News investigative report, Accident Waiting to Happen, exposed to millions of Americans Southwest management’s resort to coercive practices to deter Aviation Maintenance Technicians (AMTs) from reporting aircraft damage.
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    AMFA - SWA Technician Negotiations Update #73
    February 8, 2019 -- As you will recall, your Committee provided the last proposal in these negotiations two weeks ago in response to the Company’s counterproposal. The Company outright refused to provide a counterproposal this week with the only explanation being: “We did not view that as a proposal.” The Company continues to insist on massive offsets of foreign outsourcing and elimination of your paid rest. The Company asks for these “offsets” while not increasing the money in any significant fashion from the Tentative Agreement (TA) that you, the membership, rejected by a wide margin.
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  12. WeAAsles

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    Trying this again????????

    “I tried to swallow” ? Wow you’re a real POS.

    I “asked” “where” and “why” we weren’t finding any official news items about this deal.

    I now challenge ANY AMT here to go and try to Google and find any information that there was a new deal offered to the “1700” UPS AMT’s?

    You’re going to find the Louisville news article and NOTHING more.

    Teamsters Local 2727 Webpage is closed and mentions nothing about it. Their Local Facebook pages are also closed so no information.

    I looked at some of the Master sites for the Teamsters Negotiations and they too mention NOTHING?

    Again I challenge ANYONE to search all over the net and try to find ANYTHING ANYWHERE before this Louisville article that mentions the UPS IBT AMT talks past last October?



    “”””””I bet even the SWA POS can’t find me NOTHING past that “ONE” poster on the UPS thread?””””””””
     
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  13. WeAAsles

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    Swamp Rat find me something “”””official””” that said before today’s announcement that UPS IBT AMT’s had a new agreement they would be voting on?

    C’mon swamp rat find me that information?

    C’mon swamp rat find me that information?

    C’mon swamp rat find me that information?
     
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  14. swamt

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    Man, you are pathetic. i have told you twice, and now 3 times. It is out there. I gave you all 3 places I retained my info from. 2727 website front page and members page as well as verbal info over the phone with UPS mechanics and also by text info from other UPS mechanics. And now I just realized that's 4 areas not 3.
    I will not do it for you, period. And BTW, why was my info so accurate, dead on if you will, if it wasn't out there for me to retrieve? You are really having a hard time with this. I can't give all my secrets away especially on a public forum. But, kind of makes you wonder why I get more accurate info about your nego's as well as UPS's, than you do yourself, huh weez? It's driving you nuts. You just can't contain yourself over it all. It also was killing 700 and overspeed a many years ago.
    Last time I told the rank and file that the UPS'ers were gonna get an offer that would put them at over 51 bucks at top out for their last contract. They ended up at 51.30 I do believe was the final number and no one believed me (not even one of the nego's) but they did.
    Let it go weez. Garth sings an old tune about friends in low places, mine are in pretty high places. We'll just leave it at that...
     
  15. swamt

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    I already did and even told you. But, I can't give up all my secrets of how I get the majority of my pertinent information. just not gonna happen.
    No one will answer your request weez. They already have the info too...
     

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