WN Mechanics seek mediation

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  1. B737 driver

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    Maybe he likes midnights ! :)
     
  2. Hackman

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    Frustrating it is, and they company knows this, and weak knee'd will do just what your doing. Desperately just wanting to look at something, anything, to get your money with a yes vote. No matter about the language, no matter about outsourcing, no matter about job protection.
    Gimme my money, and gimme it right now. That is what the company wants, and your falling right into the pit.
     
  3. Hackman

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    #643 Hackman, Jul 17, 2017
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    I have enough time to get any shift I want, more time than you have Dippy Dave. Did my time on Mids when your were learning how to drive a bag cart.

    Angry at TWu company union apologists that have no clue of subjects of which they speak, or the sellouts at every contract. Then add in the fact that your big mouth runs constantly into subjects you'll never be a part of, like which union AMTs choose to be in. I could lay out all the lies and false time lines the industrial unions have spewed over the years about AMFA, but that's been done that for AMTs. Not for bag chunkers, because your opinions on the subject mean jack squat. Just like so many here, one tires of your mindless blather and getting AMT threads shut off.

    Why mention your cute ear rings? Because you posted pictures of them here like a school girl.

    2004? Simple. Corrupt NMB stopped a democratic vote because the TWu company union colluded with management to deny a vote they knew they would lose.

    AFl-CIo has a fact check? Must be offline again.

    Repeat of history? More TWu record sellouts of the airline industry? Better hope not Dave, a card drive that you won't be involved in.
     
  4. B737 driver

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    This was my whole point when I got on here , everyone thinks the negotiating committee is standing tough, I admire the effort a long time ago I was a shop rep/ steward it was great when you would catch the company violating the contract and getting the members taken care of, it sucked when a person was a total piece of **** and needed to be fired , but you had to defend him, because if you didn't the union would be sued, it was a thankless job, so eventually I let others do it.I still go to meetings I still ask questions the problem is if you cannot make the very first meeting that is the only time you can introduce new business the rest of the meetings is just for information only, and now days when the Area rep shows up, he says ask me questions , you ask him he looks like a deer in the headlights or he gives you a package answer, if you have been in the industry as long as you claim you have you know what I am talking about! The poor two saps in Dallas I don't know if they will ever get their job back, but that is neither here nor there, but the union's legal counsel and the local they came out of should have nipped that in the bud and they didn't bad, bad advice for what we pay for and result is a lawsuit for violating the RLA, and two people losing their jobs! Now you are in full section 6-negotiations, and like I said I read the whole contract before I vote and I am not all about the money, I was always taught if you are keeping up with the industry or above it, that is a descent contract, if you are way above it, you will eventually become a target. Yes all the groups of Southwest are done with their contracts, The stores guys which are Teamsters just rejected theirs, but they still had a T/A ! We Tech ops are the last hold outs, but what AMFA is not telling the membership is everyone of those groups that approved their contracts gave up some work rules to get a deal done. This will eventually get done but my whole point is if this gets into next year or longer and they eventually sign off on it, the first T/A will pass and then the union wins a battle and looses the war!
     
  5. WeAAsles

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    What a load of blah blah blah.

    The conversation is simple. How long should these people need to wait to vote on something? How long before they get to really give their voice to the Company? If 5 FIVE years isn't enough then how long should it be? 7 SEVEN years, 9 NINE years, TEN?

    AMFA at SWA has a contract that became amendable 5 FIVE years ago. When will AMFA Leaders let their members VOTE? Why do they consistently show a history of preventing their members from voting?

    Do YOU work for Lee Seeham? What is YOUR affiliation with Lee Seeham? Why is Lee Seeham receiving over $500,000 per year? What makes Lee Seeham earn over $500,000 per year of this memberships money?

    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    How many more years do they need to wait?
     
  6. WeAAsles

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    AMFA is repeating the same things it did at NWA. They only tell the members what they want them to hear instead of being fully open and honest. They claim to be a democratic union but it is really a dictatorship that is ran by guys that are too lazy to work. They are all conspiracy theorists that are too scared to agree to anything. At this point they are just too afraid that anything put out for a vote would pass and the AMFA would be replaced as quickly as possible at southwest. I have read all of the post about concessions and I would not vote for that either. However it is a negotiation and it should be the members that get to look at the offer and determine if it is concessionary. If the company is offering more than its asking for in return then I would not consider that to be a concessionary offer.
     
  8. B737 driver

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    Just read the email from AMFA what a shock the federal judge refused to overturn the Arbitrator's decision on the brake rider/ supertug grievance lawsuit that AMFA filed, let's see I was right on that $150,000 to file the law suit plus whatever Seham law firm charged us, I see Hackman and SwAmt have no answer oh well such is life, still waiting on a deal to be reached !
     
  9. WeAAsles

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    Those two Branch Davidians would never climb out the window before the ATF sets the complex ablaze.

    Neither will paint the organization they LOVE in any type of harsh light. Even though the woman might smoke 4 packs of cigarettes a day, they still think she's beautiful and perfect.
     
  10. B737 driver

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    It is just a matter of time before more people wake up and start asking the tough questions, we will see what happens after the 20 th union meetings and update number #59 or 60 th, the Union and company are meeting today !
     
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    Go ahead and put your tough questions out for all to see. You might get some answers.
     
  12. WeAAsles

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    How long should these people (YOU) need to wait to vote on something? How long before they (YOU) get to really give their (YOUR) voice to the Company? If 5 FIVE years isn't enough then how long should it be? 7 SEVEN years, 9 NINE years, TEN?

    AMFA at SWA has a contract that became amendable 5 FIVE years ago. When will AMFA Leaders let their members VOTE? Why do they consistently show a history of preventing their members from voting?

    Why is Lee Seeham receiving over $500,000 per year? What makes Lee Seeham earn (WORTH) over $500,000 per year of this memberships money?

    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    How many more years do they (YOU) need to wait?
     
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    As most on this forum know, you are a baggage handler represented by the TWU. You have no dog in this hunt. Why keep littering up this thread with your babbling nonsense.
     
  14. WeAAsles

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    Questions know no Class status Sir. Can you answer those questions posed to you or not?

    "There's no bread, let them eat cake"
     
  15. B737 driver

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    One will we ever entertain shopping around for another law firm, that might save the membership some money, that specializes in labor law!Two: will local 11 get the two individuals jobs back or decide to make them the sacrificial lambs to drop the lawsuit against AMFA, Three: will they accept the mediation/ arbitration or continue in mediation . Do they intend to let this go on forever, do they intend to take a strike vote, If management turns this into a NWA will they make the same mistakes leave us on our own, and walk away, are they being totally honest with the membership or our they just telling us what they want us to hear, I ' m done !
     
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    As stated before, you are not owed an answer to your questions. Go back to your world. You don't belong here.
     
  17. WeAAsles

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    Sorry but Bushwood Country Club is not hanging above the entranceway and you aren't Judge Smails either.

    If you CANNOT answer the questions then just say so? The "readers" will take note and they won't care who asked the questions, just that they weren't answered.
     
  18. WeAAsles

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    AGAIN?



    How long should these people (YOU) need to wait to vote on something? How long before they (YOU) get to really give their (YOUR) voice to the Company? If 5 FIVE years isn't enough then how long should it be? 7 SEVEN years, 9 NINE years, TEN?

    AMFA at SWA has a contract that became amendable 5 FIVE years ago. When will AMFA Leaders let their members VOTE? Why do they consistently show a history of preventing their members from voting?

    Why is Lee Seeham receiving over $500,000 per year? What makes Lee Seeham earn (WORTH) over $500,000 per year of this memberships money?

    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    Will AMFA members ever get to vote?
    How many more years do they (YOU) need to wait?
     
  19. Go Figure

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    I have. Just attacked and labeled anti Union and company schill!!!!! Address the issues I brought up!!?? Hope for best for the hardworking SWA membership in the future. Take a shot.
     

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