WN to cut 20 direct routes by January

Discussion in 'Southwest Airlines/Airtran Airways' started by jimntx, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. jimntx

    jimntx Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2003
    Messages:
    10,738
    Likes Received:
    3,255
  2. swamt

    swamt Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    10,242
    Likes Received:
    4,541
    We were told this was coming. And yes they are directly related to expansions of Hawaii. SWA is tired of putting off the Hawaii expansion do to the Max groundings. By rerouting the lower performance flights will bring in much better revenue, then when the Max is released back into the air, they will add back in any flights where they are needed. Also when the Max is back in the air you will see yet another Hawaii expansion again. They need more aircraft to be able to leave some in Hawaii for the island hopping.
    SWA has worked a deal with Boeing on the Max's. This deal is good enough for SWA to expand rather very quickly in the near future. All cancellations of Max's will be directed over to SWA, not to mention, yea Boeing slowed production but did not stop, they are still producing 42-45 aircraft per month instead of 50-52. There will be hundreds of Max's to be picked up with the cancellations from other airlines and all the continued production.
    Also hearing a little tidbit that the Max will start to be released in the 4th Q sometime, but, SWA won't get them in the air until next year.
    Another problem with the Max will have to get addressed before launch also. The fear factor will have to get addressed by a huge media campaign to show and prove they are safe again to the general public. However, once the Max's are released they should and will be the safest plane out there. It will take more just "fix" to get it to pass whomever has to buy off on it.
     
  3. jimntx

    jimntx Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2003
    Messages:
    10,738
    Likes Received:
    3,255
    #3 jimntx, Aug 22, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2019
    Swamt, please!!!!! The phrase is "to sign off on it." Please do not leave implications lying around in public that someone will get bought off in a deal to approve the Max. We all have enough PR problems with the MAX as it is to last quite awhile. :eek::D:rolleyes:
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  4. B737 driver

    B737 driver Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    3,381
    Likes Received:
    209
     
  5. B737 driver

    B737 driver Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    3,381
    Likes Received:
    209
    Sorry Swampy been along day lots of calls at MDW. They need the software, two computers, make the MCAS system look at both AOAs The AOAs are very critical , so I can see task cards to make sure they are not damaged. It's more than 34 Aircraft. With our new Boeing builds it is 70 a/c. When they finally sign off, which will probably be the end of September. The 34 Maxs in Victorville will be the last to come back. There will be the pilot training, and computer based refresher courses for maintenance. Some of the new builds are Max -7s. So by next year lots of capacity. Minus the 19 NG 700s that are probably going to United. A/C 759 is already gone. The 59 th 700 SWA originally got.
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  6. swamt

    swamt Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    10,242
    Likes Received:
    4,541
    I surely didn't mean for it to sound like that. Just using mechanic language. Sending our work over to QC, up for sale, and waiting for them to buy off on it. It really is just maint. lingo for buy back work within maint checks sent to QC for their stamp of approval or agreement that they too agree it is "Airworthy" for revenue flights.
    Forgot some out here are not all mechanics. Sorry for the confusion. Did not mean to sound as if anyone, including SWA, was buying off anybody for the approval of the Max's to get back in the air.


    Interesting read here this morning. The very next day after I wrote that Boeing was throttling back on deliveries and production, Boeing sends out an article indicating they are now ramping production back up, with a grand total reaching 57 per month by 6-2020. Hopefully the FAA will bless the new fixes this time around.
    My previous numbers for hundreds was not just what Boeing was producing for us, but also including other airlines cancellations and them moving more orders over to us. Driver, of course we never have all the information, but we were told in a meeting not long ago (last week some time) that the deal was very close to 2 for the price of 1 future Max's coming to SWA. Now, with an aircraft costing somewhere in the hood of 100 million, that could very easily still be millions upon millions apart as none of us are privy to the actual deal agreed to by SWA and Boeing. We will never see or here of the details within that deal, not in our pay grade to know these things. He was just giving us an update and a figure of speech way to pass onto us that at least SWA and Boeing seemed to come to some sort of agreement on this Max fiasco as of now. We still don't know, at this point, if SWA will still be reimbursed with money or if that was all thrown back into the future Max deals as SWA needs and wants to grow rather quickly now and are behind schedule a bit now.
    Denver is also behind the curve of growth by 100 flights they wanted to add, not to mention all the new hangars in 4 cities (could be 5 lost count) that they will also add flights at. SWA is chopping at the bit to expand again...

    Boeing Rises on 737 MAX Production Ramp-Up News
     
    • Winner Winner x 1

Share This Page