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Below is a letter from an IBT appointed negotiator to the UAL-CAL Mechanics and Related revealing his experience with the IBT negotiations.

Ladies & Gentlemen,

My name is Ramon Gonzalez. I was on the Negotiating Committee from day one. I spent 2.5 yrs. on the road living out of a suitcase. I am an AMT LEAD out of Denver. When I was appointed as a negotiator, I thought I was going to be able to be a part of team that would make a difference, to bring back a contract that would not only get back what we lost, but a INDUSTRY LEADING CONTRACT. As time went on I realized that it would not come to be. But I held on to hopefully get them to see that their way of doing business is not only wrong but very, very harmful to the membership. Mr. Larry Calhoun from LGA tried to do the same thing. It fell on deaf ears. The longer time went on, the more the IBT leadership (as I saw it) was taking the side of the company. All our hard work on improving our contract went down the tubes as far as I was concerned when Clacey Griswold told the committee that Doug McKeen (company lead negotiator) was an honorable man & that he was getting in trouble with the company for agreeing with all our proposals. That the well was dry and there was nothing more we could get. When I looked around the room & nobody said anything (except for Mr. Calhoun) (GOD BLESS THIS MAN) I lost it & screamed at the top of lungs to the leadership how this was a alot of #### that the f___ing company has the money and we are being treated like THIRD CLASS CITIZENS. We deserve FULL RETRO and that this is BULLSHIT. The membership would not stand for this. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVING ME RIGHT. I then walked out of negotiations because I could not believe what we were just told. As far as I am concerned we are being represented by a COMPANY UNION. Mr Calhoun walked out after I did. He and I did not return that night. I did get a call from Ken Meidinger to come back to the table. At first I said NO F___ING WAY. I then asked are we getting our money (RETRO) And he said "Oh no it stays as is" status quo. I said I would not come back. So they held a vote & decided that since Mr. Calhoun & I were not there and that our no votes would not count so the T/A passed 4-2. And this is what was brought to the membership. I was present when we held a vote and I agreed to bring this PIECE OF #### OF T/A to the membership only because THE MEMBERSHIP NEEDED TO SEE WHAT AN IBT CONTRACT REALLY IS. IT IS A COMPANY CONTRACT NOT A UNION CONTRACT for US THE MEMBERS. (Please forgive the foul language but it is what was said.)

For all who voted for the IBT because you wanted a Teamster contract well here it is. THEY LIED TO EVERYONE. I know things are being said about me by the IBT but if you want the truth just ask me or anyone who knows me. I did this for you the MEMBERS not for the IBT. I went to represent the MEMBERSHIP. Well I was out voted for the sake of the IBT. But at least I can sleep at night because I would not and will not bow down to anyone or any organization that will keep me down for the sake of the organization. I will fight for our rights and not for the IBT. I truly believe we need to get rid of the IBT ASAP. If you remember Doug was the the leader at Northwest Airlines when AMFA walked out. He had scabs take over the work. The IBT leadership flew on Northwest while the mechanics were on strike. The IAM took over the duties of AMFA related work & helped Northwest get rid of the mechanics & related. SO THANK YOU IBT & IAM. So in conclusion WE ARE GETTING SCREWED EVERY DAY WE ARE REPRESENTED BY THE REAMSTERS.

Ramon Gonzalez
 
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During the first bankruptcy at US, Doug was VP of labor relations, during the second chapter 11, he was hired back as a consultant and lead negotiator for the company against the Mechanic and Related. He was trained by Gerry Glass.

He is a snake.

After the judge abrogated our CBA at US, him and I got face to face and it was gonna be ugly, until someone stepped in between us.
 
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Below is a letter from an IBT appointed negotiator to the UAL-CAL Mechanics and Related revealing his experience with the IBT negotiations.

Ladies & Gentlemen,

My name is Ramon Gonzalez. I was on the Negotiating Committee from day one. I spent 2.5 yrs. on the road living out of a suitcase. I am an AMT LEAD out of Denver. When I was appointed as a negotiator, I thought I was going to be able to be a part of team that would make a difference, to bring back a contract that would not only get back what we lost, but a INDUSTRY LEADING CONTRACT. As time went on I realized that it would not come to be. But I held on to hopefully get them to see that their way of doing business is not only wrong but very, very harmful to the membership. Mr. Larry Calhoun from LGA tried to do the same thing. It fell on deaf ears. The longer time went on, the more the IBT leadership (as I saw it) was taking the side of the company. All our hard work on improving our contract went down the tubes as far as I was concerned when Clacey Griswold told the committee that Doug McKeen (company lead negotiator) was an honorable man & that he was getting in trouble with the company for agreeing with all our proposals. That the well was dry and there was nothing more we could get. When I looked around the room & nobody said anything (except for Mr. Calhoun) (GOD BLESS THIS MAN) I lost it & screamed at the top of lungs to the leadership how this was a alot of #### that the f___ing company has the money and we are being treated like THIRD CLASS CITIZENS. We deserve FULL RETRO and that this is BULLSHIT. The membership would not stand for this. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVING ME RIGHT. I then walked out of negotiations because I could not believe what we were just told. As far as I am concerned we are being represented by a COMPANY UNION. Mr Calhoun walked out after I did. He and I did not return that night. I did get a call from Ken Meidinger to come back to the table. At first I said NO F___ING WAY. I then asked are we getting our money (RETRO) And he said "Oh no it stays as is" status quo. I said I would not come back. So they held a vote & decided that since Mr. Calhoun & I were not there and that our no votes would not count so the T/A passed 4-2. And this is what was brought to the membership. I was present when we held a vote and I agreed to bring this PIECE OF #### OF T/A to the membership only because THE MEMBERSHIP NEEDED TO SEE WHAT AN IBT CONTRACT REALLY IS. IT IS A COMPANY CONTRACT NOT A UNION CONTRACT for US THE MEMBERS. (Please forgive the foul language but it is what was said.)

For all who voted for the IBT because you wanted a Teamster contract well here it is. THEY LIED TO EVERYONE. I know things are being said about me by the IBT but if you want the truth just ask me or anyone who knows me. I did this for you the MEMBERS not for the IBT. I went to represent the MEMBERSHIP. Well I was out voted for the sake of the IBT. But at least I can sleep at night because I would not and will not bow down to anyone or any organization that will keep me down for the sake of the organization. I will fight for our rights and not for the IBT. I truly believe we need to get rid of the IBT ASAP. If you remember Doug was the the leader at Northwest Airlines when AMFA walked out. He had scabs take over the work. The IBT leadership flew on Northwest while the mechanics were on strike. The IAM took over the duties of AMFA related work & helped Northwest get rid of the mechanics & related. SO THANK YOU IBT & IAM. So in conclusion WE ARE GETTING SCREWED EVERY DAY WE ARE REPRESENTED BY THE REAMSTERS.

Ramon Gonzalez

And you guys still don't get it. Now you are all screwed, and going to take the furloughed and retirees with you.
Where is little jimmie and his trucks? Are some of you fools still posting jimmie signed pictures? LOL
Have you seen jimmie after the take over?

Yea, I was an idiot for supporting AMFA, spent my own dime and time for it.
You believed the 'pie in the sky' promises the ibt gave you against the TRUTH AMFA gave you.
So what are the UAL M&R going to do now? AMFA drive not so good after AMFA NW got screwed.
You guys are 'self f_____' and I have little sympathy other than you are going to f___ everyone else in the process.
Well, you idiots believed petrovski, paul, dan and their 'fellow' DDD's
Grow some 'BALLS' !
 
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Has anyone asked the question "Why does the IBT feel that a mechanic working on an airplane full of people should get paid $31,000 less per year (base) than a mechanic who works on a plane full of boxes and packages? (UPS) Is that what our sociiety has come to, property is worth more than people? Is it right that Unions have bought into this?

What is their excuse for the TA that was rejected?

You guys should approach your jobs with the same determination as far as an on time departure as they are approaching negotiations.

UAL doesnt have the money? Thats the same thing we hear at AA. Seems they have plenty of money to buy new airplanes and anything else they want but when it comes time for the workers there's nothing left.
 

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