AA exclusive Ravens charter

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Per our station mgr, AA is the sole exclusive charter of the Baltimore Ravens and will use the 777 for the team. We split half with DL last year. But this yr we got the whole deal
 
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it sure speaks volume when the ravens said we gave them superb service last year  and when the team called the airline they requested AA to be the sole exclusive charter and AA came thru and will utilize a 777 the entire season.      I believe the config is 270 seats   LSG will cater the plane    Does anyone know if the 777 uses its own towbar or can a 76 towbar work on it??
 
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At US the 767 and 330 were not the same. The US 767 fleet is gone, so I can't speak as to what AA has in common types of towbars.
 
Shafted said:
What kind of money does AA make from being an exclusive charter for a pro sports team
No more than a regular charter--perhaps less--the value is in the advertising.  We transport the Dallas Cowboys; we are the Ravens transportation, etc.  There are a lot of fans out there who will fly an airline for no better reason than that airline is the choice of their favorite team.
 
But, if AA wanted to capture a huge group of rabid fans, they would become the exclusive charter for the University of Alabama.  Roll Tide!
(not judgin'.  just sayin'.)
 
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jimntx said:
No more than a regular charter--perhaps less--the value is in the advertising.  We transport the Dallas Cowboys; we are the Ravens transportation, etc.  There are a lot of fans out there who will fly an airline for no better reason than that airline is the choice of their favorite team.
 
But, if AA wanted to capture a huge group of rabid fans, they would become the exclusive charter for the University of Alabama.  Roll Tide!
(not judgin'.  just sayin'.)
 
True, but many fans who know little about aviation think that the advertised "Official Airline of the <insert team here>" is the same airline that has a charter contract for the team.  This is not always the case.
 
Shafted said:
What kind of money does AA make from being an exclusive charter for a pro sports team
 
  • With the 777 charter be a 3 class or newly refurb'd 2 class?
  • Does the team usually get the same equipment each week of the season or does AA assign one based on normal rotation (and having to ferry one to the city for pickup)?
  • How do the teams (or management of teams) decide who sits up front versus in the back?
  • A lot of large corporations have a  travel policy that not more than X number of C level or executive level persons can be on the same flight for risk mitigation, as minimal as that is.   Do teams do the same, or are they all flown together?  (George Constanza (of Seinfeld) raised this question about the Mets...why do they all travel together..what if there's a crash?)
 
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usually in our case the team will transport the bags with the individuals who then hand it to us and we load it on the plane and then retrieve it and hand back to them   
 
jimntx said:
No more than a regular charter--perhaps less--the value is in the advertising.  We transport the Dallas Cowboys; we are the Ravens transportation, etc.  There are a lot of fans out there who will fly an airline for no better reason than that airline is the choice of their favorite team.
 
But, if AA wanted to capture a huge group of rabid fans, they would become the exclusive charter for the University of Alabama.  Roll Tide!
(not judgin'.  just sayin'.)
Charters make money, good money. Or at least they do at Delta. 
 
the advertising is just a bonus (nothing marketing likes more than to see XX team get off their planes for a play off game, big bowl game or the super bowl. 
 
That is also why when we get into that time of the year you will see a lot of the charters go from 757/767 to A330/777/744. 
 

 
PHL said:
With the 777 charter be a 3 class or newly refurb'd 2 class?
At Delta it is just kind of what ever is laying around for that day. 

 
PHL said:
Does the team usually get the same equipment each week of the season or does AA assign one based on normal rotation (and having to ferry one to the city for pickup)?
again all depends. Sometimes the airlines will do a live flight sometimes it will be a ferry. Generally it will depend on the city the airplane is going to. (example, Delta isn't going to fly ATL-GRB-ATL live with a 767 but might fly ATL-TPA-ATL live with a 767.) 
 
PHL said:
How do the teams (or management of teams) decide who sits up front versus in the back?
almost always coaches/front office up front players in the back. Sometimes a vet guy or two will get to sit up front.
Like i wouldn't be shocked if Manning or Brady get to ride up front if they want to. 
Other than that, Vets(or seniors for college) normally get the most room then the s**t will roll down hill from there. 
 
PHL said:
A lot of large corporations have a  travel policy that not more than X number of C level or executive level persons can be on the same flight for risk mitigation, as minimal as that is.   Do teams do the same, or are they all flown together?  (George Constanza (of Seinfeld) raised this question about the Mets...why do they all travel together..what if there's a crash?)
nope generally one flight. 
 
There are a few examples, like UGA will be flying two 717s around this year(or possibly 319s/73Ws), but that has to do with airport limitations. When we fly out of ATL its one airplane, normally a 757. 
 
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