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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/nyregion/cocaine-smuggling-case-shows-airline-baggage-handlers-misconduct.html
 
It is a shame to the industry that there is not an airline in the U.S. that has not had some similar operation in the past few years.
 
It won't be long until the union comes along to protect these criminals and ensure they aren't terminated or reprimanded.

Josh
 
It won't be long until the union comes along to protect these criminals and ensure they aren't terminated or reprimanded.

Josh

You're wrong there about "the union."
The union has no say whatsoever or defense for those involved in criminal activity. Where the union might get involved in is if and when one of these employees is found innocent of all charges and may have the right to get his/her job back as a result.

But when the cuffs are put on, the union has NO say whatsoever....
 
You're wrong there about "the union."
The union has no say whatsoever or defense for those involved in criminal activity. Where the union might get involved in is if and when one of these employees is found innocent of all charges and may have the right to get his/her job back as a result.

But when the cuffs are put on, the union has NO say whatsoever....
Josh may not have known any better, being the ignorant twit that he/she is, but his bottom line is "anything" to bash a union.

With regard to bashing the twu, I'm not exactly what one could call "pleased" with them myself but at least I'm employed by the company and have every right to call its POS union anything I want - Josh isn't employed by AMR in any capacity (his words) and really needs to learn when to shut his mouth.
 
Josh may not have known any better, being the ignorant twit that he/she is, but his bottom line is "anything" to bash a union.

With regard to bashing the twu, I'm not exactly what one could call "pleased" with them myself but at least I'm employed by the company and have every right to call its POS union anything I want - Josh isn't employed by AMR in any capacity (his words) and really needs to learn when to shut his mouth.

I can say whatever I want about the situation on this public forum. We have been over this before, if you don't like my posts you don't need to respond them directly or in this case indirectly.

As a New Yorker who regularly travels from JFK (but rarely checks luggage) I appreciate knowing about stuff like this. Of course, this isn't unique to JFK or unique to AA, it goes on at many airports and airlines.

I wonder how Bob will spin this one!

Josh
 
I can say whatever I want about the situation on this public forum. We have been over this before, if you don't like my posts you don't need to respond them directly or in this case indirectly.

As a New Yorker who regularly travels from JFK (but rarely checks luggage) I appreciate knowing about stuff like this. Of course, this isn't unique to JFK or unique to AA, it goes on at many airports and airlines.

I wonder how Bob will spin this one!

Josh

You are still wrong about the union having any say in getting a criminal off the hook.
 
You are still wrong about the union having any say in getting a criminal off the hook.

Just becase one is cleared in a criminal court doesn't mean they should be cleared by AA to come back to work.
Plenty of people are found not guilty in criminal court but end up losing on a follow up civil suit. Not sure how that plays out with situations like these guys.

The garbage has been going on for too long. There needs to be controlled exits. Swipe card to end duty, exit through checkpoint, light goes off then backpack/bags get searched and a employee goes through metal detector.
 
Just becase one is cleared in a criminal court doesn't mean they should be cleared by AA to come back to work.
Plenty of people are found not guilty in criminal court but end up losing on a follow up civil suit. Not sure how that plays out with situations like these guys.

The garbage has been going on for too long. There needs to be controlled exits. Swipe card to end duty, exit through checkpoint, light goes off then backpack/bags get searched and a employee goes through metal detector.

I agree.
 
I can say whatever I want about the situation on this public forum. We have been over this before, if you don't like my posts you don't need to respond them directly or in this case indirectly.

As a New Yorker who regularly travels from JFK (but rarely checks luggage) I appreciate knowing about stuff like this. Of course, this isn't unique to JFK or unique to AA, it goes on at many airports and airlines.

I wonder how Bob will spin this one!

Josh
... just suggesting ways you could stop proving your lack of common sense ...
 
Just becase one is cleared in a criminal court doesn't mean they should be cleared by AA to come back to work.
Plenty of people are found not guilty in criminal court but end up losing on a follow up civil suit. Not sure how that plays out with situations like these guys.

The garbage has been going on for too long. There needs to be controlled exits. Swipe card to end duty, exit through checkpoint, light goes off then backpack/bags get searched and a employee goes through metal detector.

What? And lose dues payers??!
 
It won't be long until the union comes along to protect these criminals and ensure they aren't terminated or reprimanded.

Josh

Screw it. Not worth posting over. Edited out my comment
 
Just becase one is cleared in a criminal court doesn't mean they should be cleared by AA to come back to work.
Plenty of people are found not guilty in criminal court but end up losing on a follow up civil suit. Not sure how that plays out with situations like these guys.

The garbage has been going on for too long. There needs to be controlled exits. Swipe card to end duty, exit through checkpoint, light goes off then backpack/bags get searched and a employee goes through metal detector.


The TSA is part of the same equation not mentioned in the NYT article.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/20/tsa-theft-of-passenger-valuables-a-nationwide-problem/
 
Barf,

I'm with you. Number one one the implementation list is the TSA thieves. It's kinda of tough to skim at the security checkpoints except for the people who were criminals in their past life. (their background checks go back only so far), but the bag searchers below should clear security.
 
Barf,

I'm with you. Number one one the implementation list is the TSA thieves. It's kinda of tough to skim at the security checkpoints except for the people who were criminals in their past life. (their background checks go back only so far), but the bag searchers below should clear security.

Exactly, TSA thugs will strip search old ladies in wheel chairs and not screen ground handlers. :wacko:
A couple of well placed C4 kilos would bring a plane down in a second.
Mechs are required a full (15 year in my case, 30 years ago) FBI background check and drug testing.
What requirements for ground handlers?
Minimum wage, wink and nod.
The gooberment is not serious about security, just showmanship.

B) xUT
 

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