- Dec 5, 2003
wanna guess what the staffing will be on an aircraft with 10 in first, 20 in business, and 72 in coach?
How did/does UA staff its ps aircraft?
What is the definition of a cynic? A skeptic with experience.Cynical? Moi? How could you say such a thing?
102/6 is 17 pax per FA. 168/9, the current seats/FA ratio on the 767 is one per 18.7. Not much change here. They must think the premium fares are out there if they're planning this. Another observation is that we're simply not as expensive as they like to suggest during contract talks.So, now you have 6 f/as for 100 passengers. Unless the passengers are paying through the nose for their seats, I agree with 1AA...how can this be cost effective?
I assume six FAs, two per cabin. Although one FA could certainly pour beverages and sell snacks for the 72 economy seats - that's just 12 rows - if the service expectations were adjusted.What is the definition of a cynic? A skeptic with experience.
10/20/72 is 102, whiich means 3 FAs. But the current 767-200 used on the routes can go with 4, although 9 are normally scheduled. There's no way they could offer a decent service without more staffing.
So you've never flown UA's three class 757s (featuring its ps service)? Prepare meals for 30 premium passengers from one forward galley? Nope. Not enough space for premium service. And you couldn't serve business class from an aft galley. Here's a link to UA's 757 seat map:I'm curious about galley configuration. I can't imagine a narrow body with three galleys. Maybe one galley up front handling first and business, and one in the back?
AA is already getting the premium fares on the JFK-LAX/SFO transcons. And once AA can schedule FAs with the same flexibility enjoyed by DL, you're not going to be as expensive as you are now, so six should be no problem.102/6 is 17 pax per FA. 168/9, the current seats/FA ratio on the 767 is one per 18.7. Not much change here. They must think the premium fares are out there if they're planning this. Another observation is that we're simply not as expensive as they like to suggest during contract talks.
not according to US DOT information which is quite accurate for domestic travel.AA gets the higest average fares of any airline on JFK-LAX, roughly $460 each way. .
I got my numbers from Table 1a, and for 4Q2011, AA's average JFK-LAX fare was $456 and the market average was $369, which gave AA a 24% premium over the market average. And, of course, that market average is skewed by AA's $456. Better analysis would exclude AA's fares to determine its premium over its competitors.not according to US DOT information which is quite accurate for domestic travel.
UA has the highest average fare in the market - about a 25% premium to the average market fare.
AA's premium to the average is about 9%.