Amazon Union Vote Fails by 2:1 Margin

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I've been union and non union over the past 40 years. In watching a union in action and being around pro union employees, the only reason to unionize is to keep folks working that have no business still being employed. So in essence, my 1K/yr. I give in union dues is going to union officials' salaries and my worthless co-workers that should've been fired years ago.
 

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I've been union and non union over the past 40 years. In watching a union in action and being around pro union employees, the only reason to unionize is to keep folks working that have no business still being employed. So in essence, my 1K/yr. I give in union dues is going to union officials' salaries and my worthless co-workers that should've been fired years ago.

Statistics say Union workers get paid more than non Union workers. Funny how that never comes up when someone is bashing Unions.
 

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If there's a silver lining in these defeats it's the increased visibility they bring to working conditions, and to the way(s) companies see their employees. We had the "video game" poster at Delta, and now the piss bottles at Amazon. It won't change buying habits overnight (no one's going to actually boycott either of these companies), but I hope it continues the shift toward a more balanced relationship between capital and labor.

Labor has a part in this too, and the first step is to stop tolerating shitty representation and outdated models. The AFA is a great example of what a union should look like in 2021. The Association is a great example of what not to do.
 
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Uh oh. Looks like Bears will need an extra Viagra or two this weekend.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-n...arehouse-workers-not-likely-unionize-n1263558 via @nbcnews


The Union got rejected in ALA-BAMA !!!

W-T-F is so surprising about that ???????????

Next stop, Staten Island NYC distribution center !

I TOLD YOU BEFORE, You and I do not live in the SAME country, BECAUSE the USA is NOT one country ! ( quick, check out 2020's BLUE-RED state Map)

YOU live in a (type) country like CAPE TOWN, SA in the Bad ol' days.

ME, (BOS/PVD/NYC/PHL) , we live in NORTHERN IRELAND !!

Huge Difference, COMPRENDE ???
 

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Statistics say Union workers get paid more than non Union workers. Funny how that never comes up when someone is bashing Unions.
Like less than 12% of the work farce is represented....why is the other eighty eight percent don't want union representation? Funny how that never comes up when someone try's to support unions.
 

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The Union got rejected in ALA-BAMA !!!

W-T-F is so surprising about that ???????????

Next stop, Staten Island NYC distribution center !

YOU live in a (type) country like CAPE TOWN, SA in the Bad ol' days.

ME, (BOS/PVD/NYC/PHL) , we live in NORTHERN IRELAND !!

Huge Difference, COMPRENDE ???

And you live in Honkie Haven New England? Tell us about Southie'.

Is that the same NYC that her high priestess, AOC killed some 40,000 minority jobs?
 

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Like less than 12% of the work farce is represented....why is the other eighty eight percent don't want union representation? Funny how that never comes up when someone try's to support unions.[/QUOTE


Corporate America and right to work. You tell me why someone wouldn’t want better pay and benefits, proven. They were lied to, intimidated? Let’s hear your side.
 

Kev3188

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Most unions aren't offering a model people want to help build. They persist on focusing only on economic arguments. Those are obviously important. They're also ridiculously easy for companies to counter.

There are some great outliers (AFA and some teacher unions, for example), but by and large most are stuck playing victim and insist on playing by rules most people never agreed to.
 

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Most unions aren't offering a model people want to help build. They persist on focusing only on economic arguments. Those are obviously important. They're also ridiculously easy for companies to counter.

There are some great outliers (AFA and some teacher unions, for example), but by and large most are stuck playing victim and insist on playing by rules most people never agreed to.
Most members I know aren't focused on rabid politics.
Unions were a critical component in the early days of labor, but now are a dinosaur Most if not all labor law they fought for, has been codified into law some time ago. Not too many battles anymore, just continued failed attempts at organizing.

I like how you noted 'some teacher unions'
 

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Most members I know aren't focused on rabid politics.
Unions were a critical component in the early days of labor, but now are a dinosaur Most if not all labor law they fought for, has been codified into law some time ago. Not too many battles anymore, just continued failed attempts at organizing.

I like how you noted 'some teacher unions'
And one thing that is keeping those things codified are...unions. If you get rid of them, I would venture to guess that overtime laws would be one of the first things to go. Oh...they might keep them on the books...but more and more jobs would become salaried and "exempt" from overtime laws. It's an easy way to get 50 or 60 hours per week out of every employee and not worry about the costs of overtime. Next would be the rolling back of some of those workplace "saftey" measures.....that only hamper our ability to make a profit. Time off would likely also be reduced. It won't happen all at once, but we got rid of an AMENDMENT we didn't like (prohibition), which is a helluva harder than getting rid of a pesky law.