Name: T6
Employer: NWA
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2003
Time: 02:33 PM
Comments
To "Bay Two Boy", I'll prove it to you. But you need to do one thing in order for this discussion to have a chance at reaching resolution. Open your IAM Blue book to article 2 and read it. It will only take you a few minutes. You will see that your work couldn't be farmed out. I know you are going to call me a liar but just listen please. The absolute facts are these: The only time NWA was able to beat us in a Farm Out grievance was when they could prove to the arbitrator that either, a: NWA didn't have the facilities to do the work and our members were not being harmed because OT and even unlimited OT was being offered. b: No IAM NWA Mechanic was on layoff. Now if any of the above statements couldn't be proved WE/IAM won and the work was returned and the affected members were made whole. Ok, now open your AMFA contract and read Article 2, this will take a few more minutes. But you will see that AMFA fully and intently gave away our jobs and misled our membership about the job security that this AMFA contract would provide. I say, let's assume AMFA's as smart as some like to believe, then there would be NO way they could of overlooked this when they changed this article. Somebody in AMFA must of known we were giving away our jobs. We were promised professional negotiators and we're told we had "Iron Clad" No-Layoff protection. I believe Bay Two Guy, that if you would just take a couple minutes to read these two articles you will see that AMFA was unable to get us anymore money than the IAM was without giving away Overhaul Maintenance Jobs just like the IAM said would happen. Just think about this, If we still had the IAM our work wouldn't be able to be farmed out while people are on layoff. Do you know what that would mean? It would mean we'd still have all our bays full of check work and somebody would of had to do it.....us! Thanks in advance for reading article two from both books. I believe and I sincerely do, that if every NWA AMFA member reads these two articles AMFA will be gone by Spring. T6
Print this post and ask Jeff Mathews your AMFA National A.C.A.C.. He's supposed to be honest. Ask him if AMFA screwed us with this open ended Farm-Out language. He told me they did and that he doubts if we can ever fix it again because we'll be so much smaller after all that work is farmed out and won't have much leverage because we'll do so little work. He told me that the average Tech will be 54+ years of age and have '82-'84 seniority just to hold a Line job somewhere around the system. He even expressed concern that now that Delle got his UAL that we'll be ignored and left to "waste away".
compliments of NW Mechanics
American to add work at Tulsa, KC
By Trebor Banstetter
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
American Airlines will be adding aircraft maintenance work to its Kansas City, Mo., and Tulsa, Okla., maintenance bases, after both cities provided about $100 million in financial incentives to keep the facilities open.
But the move won't create new jobs in either community because other operations are being phased out.
The new work consists of heavy maintenance checks that are being done for the first time on airplanes. The job typically takes several weeks to complete on a single aircraft.
The biggest chunk of the new business is going to Tulsa, where American will add a maintenance line for Boeing 737s. In July, the airline added landing gear work at the base.
Airline executives said the new work is possible because of incentives provided by the city for equipment and capital improvements at the facility. "We remain grateful for the strong support that civic leaders and the people of Tulsa have shown American," Carmine Romano, American's vice president of the Tulsa base, said in a statement.
The new maintenance line will take the place of a Fokker 100 maintenance operation that is being phased out as American retires that aircraft.
In Kansas City, American will begin new maintenance work on MD-80 aircraft the carrier acquired when it bought TWA. The airline has 103 MD-80s in its fleet.
American also has a maintenance base at Alliance Airport in Fort Worth. Airline executives have been negotiating an incentive package with city leaders, but no agreement has been reached.
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The difference in Representation is Clear!!!!!!!!
Employer: NWA
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2003
Time: 02:33 PM
Comments
To "Bay Two Boy", I'll prove it to you. But you need to do one thing in order for this discussion to have a chance at reaching resolution. Open your IAM Blue book to article 2 and read it. It will only take you a few minutes. You will see that your work couldn't be farmed out. I know you are going to call me a liar but just listen please. The absolute facts are these: The only time NWA was able to beat us in a Farm Out grievance was when they could prove to the arbitrator that either, a: NWA didn't have the facilities to do the work and our members were not being harmed because OT and even unlimited OT was being offered. b: No IAM NWA Mechanic was on layoff. Now if any of the above statements couldn't be proved WE/IAM won and the work was returned and the affected members were made whole. Ok, now open your AMFA contract and read Article 2, this will take a few more minutes. But you will see that AMFA fully and intently gave away our jobs and misled our membership about the job security that this AMFA contract would provide. I say, let's assume AMFA's as smart as some like to believe, then there would be NO way they could of overlooked this when they changed this article. Somebody in AMFA must of known we were giving away our jobs. We were promised professional negotiators and we're told we had "Iron Clad" No-Layoff protection. I believe Bay Two Guy, that if you would just take a couple minutes to read these two articles you will see that AMFA was unable to get us anymore money than the IAM was without giving away Overhaul Maintenance Jobs just like the IAM said would happen. Just think about this, If we still had the IAM our work wouldn't be able to be farmed out while people are on layoff. Do you know what that would mean? It would mean we'd still have all our bays full of check work and somebody would of had to do it.....us! Thanks in advance for reading article two from both books. I believe and I sincerely do, that if every NWA AMFA member reads these two articles AMFA will be gone by Spring. T6
Print this post and ask Jeff Mathews your AMFA National A.C.A.C.. He's supposed to be honest. Ask him if AMFA screwed us with this open ended Farm-Out language. He told me they did and that he doubts if we can ever fix it again because we'll be so much smaller after all that work is farmed out and won't have much leverage because we'll do so little work. He told me that the average Tech will be 54+ years of age and have '82-'84 seniority just to hold a Line job somewhere around the system. He even expressed concern that now that Delle got his UAL that we'll be ignored and left to "waste away".
compliments of NW Mechanics
American to add work at Tulsa, KC
By Trebor Banstetter
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
American Airlines will be adding aircraft maintenance work to its Kansas City, Mo., and Tulsa, Okla., maintenance bases, after both cities provided about $100 million in financial incentives to keep the facilities open.
But the move won't create new jobs in either community because other operations are being phased out.
The new work consists of heavy maintenance checks that are being done for the first time on airplanes. The job typically takes several weeks to complete on a single aircraft.
The biggest chunk of the new business is going to Tulsa, where American will add a maintenance line for Boeing 737s. In July, the airline added landing gear work at the base.
Airline executives said the new work is possible because of incentives provided by the city for equipment and capital improvements at the facility. "We remain grateful for the strong support that civic leaders and the people of Tulsa have shown American," Carmine Romano, American's vice president of the Tulsa base, said in a statement.
The new maintenance line will take the place of a Fokker 100 maintenance operation that is being phased out as American retires that aircraft.
In Kansas City, American will begin new maintenance work on MD-80 aircraft the carrier acquired when it bought TWA. The airline has 103 MD-80s in its fleet.
American also has a maintenance base at Alliance Airport in Fort Worth. Airline executives have been negotiating an incentive package with city leaders, but no agreement has been reached.
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The difference in Representation is Clear!!!!!!!!
