Amfa's Strategy

[twuer]

It appears that amfa has been busted, as it were. We all knew that amfa's tactics were unconventional, intimidating and rather poorly thought out, now it appears that they are illegal!!!! This letter came out just hours ago.

Now, any of you wannabes want to condone such action by amfa.......




April 26, 2004


TO: All TWU Local Officers


The National Mediation Board (NMB) is in the process of determining whether
AMFA has submitted the required number of authorization cards to get a
representation election. Should the NMB rule that AMFA has sufficient
cards, an election is likely to be scheduled this summer.

On April 22, 2004 both the TWU and AMFA filed objections to the Company's
list of eligible voters. After reviewing AMFA's submission to the NMB, it is
clear that for the past year, inside managers at American Airlines have
provided AMFA with access to confidential payroll and personnel records for
our members. This explains why we have received hundreds of complaints from
individuals who never provided their home address to anyone except the
Company, but have nevertheless received several mailings from AMFA.

It is clear that access to this information originated with AA Management
and given to AMFA who used Company resources and facilities not for Company
business, but rather to assist AMFA’s organizing drive. In doing so, they
also compromised the privacy and security of thousands of AA employees.

So there is no misunderstanding, no TWU official has access to these inside
payroll and personnel records. For those of us who are American Airlines
employees, it would violate Rules 29 and 34 to access these records for the
purposes of this representation dispute without specific authorization from
the Company.

Because AMFA was supplied with Company records that were not given to the
TWU, AMFA has been provided with an unfair advantage in the current
representational dispute. Therefore, the TWU will request that the NMB
intervene to stop the Company from providing AMFA with access to all
confidential payroll and personnel records. Without swift action by the
NMB, AMFA will continue to use these records to unfairly influence its case
before the NMB, as well as any future election.

The TWU may also ask the NMB to establish a level playing field by providing
us with limited access to the same confidential records that have been given
to AMFA. If we are granted such access, I assure you that all information
will be handled in accordance with procedures that will protect confidential
records.



Sincerely and fraternally,
James C. Little

Director Air Transport Division

Intl. Administrative Vice President

Come on now.....we are waiting for an explanation to this one!!!!!

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

It appears that amfa has been busted, as it were. We all knew that amfa's tactics were unconventional, intimidating and rather poorly thought out, now it appears that they are illegal!!!! This letter came out just hours ago.

Now, any of you wannabes want to condone such action by amfa.......




April 26, 2004


TO: All TWU Local Officers


The National Mediation Board (NMB) is in the process of determining whether
AMFA has submitted the required number of authorization cards to get a
representation election. Should the NMB rule that AMFA has sufficient
cards, an election is likely to be scheduled this summer.

On April 22, 2004 both the TWU and AMFA filed objections to the Company's
list of eligible voters. After reviewing AMFA's submission to the NMB, it is
clear that for the past year, inside managers at American Airlines have
provided AMFA with access to confidential payroll and personnel records for
our members. This explains why we have received hundreds of complaints from
individuals who never provided their home address to anyone except the
Company, but have nevertheless received several mailings from AMFA.

It is clear that access to this information originated with AA Management
and given to AMFA who used Company resources and facilities not for Company
business, but rather to assist AMFA’s organizing drive. In doing so, they
also compromised the privacy and security of thousands of AA employees.

So there is no misunderstanding, no TWU official has access to these inside
payroll and personnel records. For those of us who are American Airlines
employees, it would violate Rules 29 and 34 to access these records for the
purposes of this representation dispute without specific authorization from
the Company.

Because AMFA was supplied with Company records that were not given to the
TWU, AMFA has been provided with an unfair advantage in the current
representational dispute. Therefore, the TWU will request that the NMB
intervene to stop the Company from providing AMFA with access to all
confidential payroll and personnel records. Without swift action by the
NMB, AMFA will continue to use these records to unfairly influence its case
before the NMB, as well as any future election.

The TWU may also ask the NMB to establish a level playing field by providing
us with limited access to the same confidential records that have been given
to AMFA. If we are granted such access, I assure you that all information
will be handled in accordance with procedures that will protect confidential
records.



Sincerely and fraternally,
James C. Little

Director Air Transport Division

Intl. Administrative Vice President

Come on now.....we are waiting for an explanation to this one!!!!!

THE twu SMELLS FEAR... AND IT IS THEIR OWN!

 

[twuer]

That's all you got Ken??????

Come on Dave, defend the actions!!!!!

 

[Decision 2004]

I don't know the specifics regarding these allegations but a few things appear to be true.

#1. How can it be "unfair" to demonstrate the truth regarding the eligibilty list?

#2. If AA was "assisting" AMFA, then why would they place their own credibility on the line by claiming there are "legitimate" explanations to the list they provided, when in fact, there is no such legitmacy. WOuldn't AA have just delivered a de-flated list an forced the TWU to provide proof otherwise? The simple logic regarding these allegations leads one to believe the TWU is over it's head and is already seeking a scaoe goat for their loss.

#3. The truth is, the TWU has already been scanned and the TWU is in complete fear of what the truth is regarding their submitted protest. The TWU list is far worse thna that provided by AA.

#4. If these AMFA guys have outsmarted both AA and the TWU regarding the fraudulent list, then by all means I am sticking with those guys, because the TWU has NEVER demonstrated such superior battle skills.

#5. If anything, there should be extreme punishment for both AA and the TWU for attempting to FRAUD the NMB and the Mechanics of American out of a legitmate democratic vote.

Can someone explain the "unfair advantage" when the truth is being delivered to the Office of the NMB regarding who belongs in the upcoming craft or class representational election?

At least one thing is sure, the TWU just comfirmed that the provided data is very credible or they wouldn't be whining so loudly.

I am sorry but the TWU cannot handle the TRUTH. And truth is they are no longer desired by the majority of the Mechanic and Related craft or class of American Airlines.


twuer, we are onto your list also, and you are busted.

 

[twuer]

twuer, we are onto your list also, and you are


You're so shaken you can't even finish your post!!!!! A fraudulent act has been committed here and amfa is the culprit!!!

 

[twuer]

What are you doing Dave.....callin' for back up????

 

[twuer]

RING, RING, RING....."Hello"....."Hey man, this is Dave. We've been caught!!! Destroy all evidence......I repeat destroy all evidence!!!! (silence) Any suggestions as to what we do now????"........."Can't help ya' dude. You got yourself in this, you need to find a way to get yourself out!! CLICK!!!

 

[twuer]

It appears that amfa is in bed with the company. And according to Dave, when amfa sleeps with the company it becomes "STRATEGERY"!!!!!

Dave's quote.....
by all means I am sticking with those guys

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

wuer,

"That's all you got Ken??????"

Not really. I also have professionalism and a belief in a democratic, craft union for our profession. I also believe posting with my real name.

Nice letter from jim. And hot off the teamtwu press no less. Do you really believe everything that this man says? I guess if he says something it is twu truth. Well, your leader also sent out a letter that we would have a FULL REVOTE! We never got one. Your leader is a liar.

I believe my original post to this thread is a clear indication of how the twu fells. The twu fears an election. I will repeat for your benefit twuer:

THE twu SMELLS FEAR... AND IT IS THEIR OWN!

 

[Decision 2004]

Actually I was distracted while talking with my Brother about the death of my sixteen year old niece in a car accident. I apolgize to her and him, and the readers for the incomplete posting.

But of course you are entitled to your opinion, and your cup runneth over with fear.

Sorry about the missing piece of the post.

Please find it within your heart to forgive me, and if you have an ounce of good in you, please say a prayer for my brother, and his peace.

 

[twuer]

wuer,

"That's all you got Ken??????"

Not really. I also have professionalism and a belief in a democratic, craft union for our profession. I also believe posting with my real name.

Nice letter from jim. And hot off the teamtwu press no less. Do you really believe everything that this man says? I guess if he says something it is twu truth. Well, your leader also sent out a letter that we would have a FULL REVOTE! We never got one. Your leader is a liar.

I believe my original post to this thread is a clear indication of how the twu fells. The twu fears an election. I will repeat for your benefit twuer:

THE twu SMELLS FEAR... AND IT IS THEIR OWN!

Here's a news flash for ya' Ken......it wasn't Jim Little who made this call or found this information....it was your own organizers who provided Seham the documents printed directly from AA auto T-A system computers. Were you one of the amfa supporters who weren't smart enough to change the format of the information to make it at least look like you didn't steal it??? The NMB gave the TWU a copy of the actual information source that you guys turned in!!!

I guess your type of "professionalism" requires stealing confidential information???? Nice!!!

 

[twuer]

Actually I was distracted while talking with my Brother about the death of my sixteen year old niece in a car accident. I apolgize to her and him, and the readers for the incomplete posting.

But of course you are entitled to your opinion, and your cup runneth over with fear.

Sorry about the missing piece of the post.

Please find it within your heart to forgive me, and if you have an ounce of good in you, please say a prayer for my brother, and his peace.

My sincere condolences then!!

 

[Raptor]

It appears that amfa has been busted, as it were. We all knew that amfa's tactics were unconventional, intimidating and rather poorly thought out, now it appears that they are illegal!!!! This letter came out just hours ago.

Now, any of you wannabes want to condone such action by amfa.......




April 26, 2004


TO: All TWU Local Officers


The National Mediation Board (NMB) is in the process of determining whether
AMFA has submitted the required number of authorization cards to get a
representation election. Should the NMB rule that AMFA has sufficient
cards, an election is likely to be scheduled this summer.

On April 22, 2004 both the TWU and AMFA filed objections to the Company's
list of eligible voters. After reviewing AMFA's submission to the NMB, it is
clear that for the past year, inside managers at American Airlines have
provided AMFA with access to confidential payroll and personnel records for
our members. This explains why we have received hundreds of complaints from
individuals who never provided their home address to anyone except the
Company, but have nevertheless received several mailings from AMFA.

It is clear that access to this information originated with AA Management
and given to AMFA who used Company resources and facilities not for Company
business, but rather to assist AMFA’s organizing drive. In doing so, they
also compromised the privacy and security of thousands of AA employees.

So there is no misunderstanding, no TWU official has access to these inside
payroll and personnel records. For those of us who are American Airlines
employees, it would violate Rules 29 and 34 to access these records for the
purposes of this representation dispute without specific authorization from
the Company.

Because AMFA was supplied with Company records that were not given to the
TWU, AMFA has been provided with an unfair advantage in the current
representational dispute. Therefore, the TWU will request that the NMB
intervene to stop the Company from providing AMFA with access to all
confidential payroll and personnel records. Without swift action by the
NMB, AMFA will continue to use these records to unfairly influence its case
before the NMB, as well as any future election.

The TWU may also ask the NMB to establish a level playing field by providing
us with limited access to the same confidential records that have been given
to AMFA. If we are granted such access, I assure you that all information
will be handled in accordance with procedures that will protect confidential
records.



Sincerely and fraternally,
James C. Little

Director Air Transport Division

Intl. Administrative Vice President

Come on now.....we are waiting for an explanation to this one!!!!!

I don't have a problem with it TWUer it sounds like some genius AMFA organizers who were handed a fraudulant hand with the bogus list made the best of it and found a way to beat it.

I say bravo

These are the guys who can beat the company and get us back what the TWU gave up, Smart and resourcefull

If this did happen the stuff they dug up is only the Truth so what is the problem man. B)

GO AMFA

 

[twuer]

Raptor......
And you were pissed off because Randy McDonald wanted to build a new union hall. I guess your true colors are surfacing!!

 

[Bob Owens]

[Come on now.....we are waiting for an explanation to this one!!!!!

On April 22, 2004 both the TWU and AMFA filed objections to the Company's
list of eligible voters. After reviewing AMFA's submission to the NMB, it is
clear that for the past year, inside managers at American Airlines have
provided AMFA with access to confidential payroll and personnel records for
our members. This explains why we have received hundreds of complaints from
individuals who never provided their home address to anyone except the
Company, but have nevertheless received several mailings from AMFA.

And what made it "clear"? The seniority lists are on the web arent they?We heard many similar complaints from guys about getting phone calls and mailings from the TWU or its agents.

It is clear that access to this information originated with AA Management
and given to AMFA who used Company resources and facilities not for Company
business, but rather to assist AMFA’s organizing drive.

Could this accusation be a result of the fact that the DOL has recieved evidence that TWU officials have been illegally accepting payments from the company? Wouldnt each Local have an address list of all the members? Wouldnt all the Insurance companies that the TWU deals with also have a complete address list? Wouldnt AAA have a semi-complete address list?How did Team TWU get my home address, and my phone number? As a matter of fact how did that company that was doing the survey get a list of all the members phone numbers?

In doing so, they
also compromised the privacy and security of thousands of AA employees.

How by giving out addresses? Like the way the TWU distributes all our addresses to their insurance companies, not to mention phone numbers?

So there is no misunderstanding, no TWU official has access to these inside
payroll and personnel records.

I'm not sure what records they are talking about but the President of the local can get access to payroll information to insure compliance with the contract as far as overtime equalization, as far as personal records he can only have access when accompanied by the member.By the way how did the TWU get all the members phone numbers? That information is not on the membership application and even if it was there would be no means of updating the list except through the company?

Because AMFA was supplied with Company records that were not given to the
TWU, AMFA has been provided with an unfair advantage in the current
representational dispute. Therefore, the TWU will request that the NMB
intervene to stop the Company from providing AMFA with access to all
confidential payroll and personnel records. Without swift action by the
NMB, AMFA will continue to use these records to unfairly influence its case
before the NMB, as well as any future election.

They still have not said what exactly was given by the company to AMFA.


The TWU may also ask the NMB to establish a level playing field by providing
us with limited access to the same confidential records that have been given
to AMFA.

Ah Ha! So now we see what they are up to. They want access to our personal files. They probably want to be able to see our job applications, medical records etc. This is a pure scam of desperation by the TWU. They make up a story about AMFA getting personal records so they can use that as an excuse to get access for themselves. God only knows what they would want such information for. If this is true, that the company broke the law by sharing confidential information with AMFA, then wouldnt they be breaking the law again by doing the same thing again with the TWU? Well for the purposes of this election the only information that is required, is information the TWU already has, name and address. I think that if the TWU actually does seek to get access to our personal files we should seek an injunction and sue both parties. The TWUs concept is flawed, they are claiming that two wrongs would make a right when in the meantime it is the members who are wronged. I would still like to hear exactly what Little is talking about.