Awa Alpa Mec Hotline – September 14 & 15

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AWA ALPA MEC Hotline – September 14, 2005

From: JR Baker, AWA MEC Chairman
To: All AWA Pilots

As you know, your AWA MEC accepted a draft of the Transition Agreement during Monday’s Special MEC meeting and will vote on the final language on Friday. This agreement involves three parties, management, the America West pilots, and the US Airways pilots.

Today, the US Airways MEC unanimously voted to accept the Transition Agreement. Earlier this week, the US Airways pilots had filed objections to the merger with the federal bankruptcy court. During today’s MEC meeting, the US Airways MEC decided that they will still object to executive compensation. However, based on changes the Company made to provide Board of Directors input to our pilot groups, they will drop objections to not having an actual BOD seat. Instead, a Labor Committee of three Board of Director members will be formed. This Labor Committee will meet with ALPA and three other unions, share with ALPA the information that the BOD receives and relay to the Board our input.

The US Airways pilots also received $500,000 for settlement of a large grievance and got the Company to agree to eliminate a contract clause that could reduce pay by up to 1 percent to fund retirement contributions for returning furloughees for the time they were on furlough.

The language of the Transition Agreement is almost complete, and your MEC is ready to review the final document during Friday’s MEC meeting. The Transition Agreement will keep separate and preserve flying and aircraft for each pilot group during the interim period when the two airlines are transitioning to a merged airline, make sure that the Company accepts the integrated seniority list and set out a process that starts 60 days from now for bargaining the merged contract.

On a more somber note, both Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection today. Tune into CNBC tomorrow morning, Thursday, September 15, to hear Capt. Duane Woerth, ALPA president, weigh in on the latest blows to the airline industry. He will appear on television between 10:00 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. Eastern Time.

Our airline industry is in turmoil and there’s no end in sight. Analysts are predicting more bankruptcies, consolidations, fragmentations and perhaps liquidations. Our pilot group took an important step this week to make sure that our consolidation with US Airways protects us and proceeds in an orderly fashion.

As we struggle through these tough times, our profession must stand together to survive. Continue to keep your union brothers and sisters at Delta, Northwest, and all other airlines in your thoughts and prayers.

Be careful out there.


AWA ALPA MEC Hotline – September 15, 2005

From: JR Baker, AWA MEC Chairman
To: All AWA Pilots

Some have called it “Black Wednesday,†others the “daily double,†with both Delta and Northwest filing for bankruptcy yesterday. Now, four major U.S. airlines are operating under bankruptcy protection, putting even more pressure on the other struggling airlines.

Airlines are citing high fuel costs and not enough available cash as their reasons for seeking or contemplating bankruptcy protection. With gas prices going up, airfares have remained low. People are choosing to fly rather than drive to their destinations to mitigate the pain felt at the pump.

Wouldn’t it make sense that if passenger traffic was up, airlines would make money? Add on pilots giving billions of dollars in concessions, and one would reasonably assume that there would be a plethora of cash to cover today’s high fuel costs. Unfortunately, this is not the case.

Airline managements across the board have squandered away that money through low fares trying to beat the competition. And now most of the competition is operating out of bankruptcy. Clearly, the ways of the past aren’t working. So, where does that leave us?

It’s time for airline managements to implement business solutions that work in today’s environment. When fuel goes up, fares must go up. Management needs to get smart and stay smart on maximizing yields. Airline managements in general must focus on fixing operational wastes such as training debacles, rather than tap labor to make up for management’s lapses. That well has been tapped too many times and is now bone dry.

We must be realistic and not overly pessimistic that the end of our industry is near, or even optimistic that things are going to change quickly. There will likely be more blows to our industry before things start to turn around, and we must be prepared for what the future may bring. With these recent filings, the odds are high that a future merger or fragmentation takes place that affects us as we become the new US Airways. Make no mistake, this MEC is prepared, and we will continue to prepare for all eventualities.

Though your MEC is focused 100 percent on what’s in our backyard, we are also looking beyond the merger with US Airways and preparing for the unexpected. This is not a novel concept. As pilots, we rigorously train to protect and defend against the unexpected. Your MEC’s job is to continue monitoring the industry, the environment, and the impact they have on our airline. We will continue managing our resources effectively. And most importantly, we will continue working together as a team to ensure the viability of our pilot group and our airline.

One last item - The pilots at Polar Air Cargo have been in negotiations for more than two years trying to get a fair contract that recognizes their contributions and allows their airline continued growth. At 12:01 a.m. tomorrow, Friday, September 16, Polar Air Cargo pilots may go on strike. If this should happen, there will likely be pilots who are stranded. Please help them get home.

Be careful out there.
 
That sounds exactly NOTHING like any hotline the AAA MEC would ever produce.......

Bravo to the America West pilots and MEC, for a representative body they can be proud of!


ALL OR NONE!

SH
 
And if they ever did put out a code-a-phone like that at the end it would say... But all those things are trivial compared to the effort we must put forth to stop the Airways pilots at MDA from trying to defend their jobs. These pilots must understand if we thought it was benificial for us to defend them we would have done so. Clearly if we wanted informational picketing we would have voted on another resolution, reafirming the July 15 resolution to picket. But rest assured we will get on with other things just as soon as we can rid ourselves of these pilots and outsource the 170's
 
Well, there you have it. Proof positive that AWA is buying TED along with the Pacific rights from UAL in what will be term "Project Catfish" (for it's propensity to plow around stirring up the sh1t). The plan is to become the first "full service" LCC with Pacific service and every configuration of the A-320 that came out of the factory. :lol:
 
Too bad the TED report did not come from JR Baker, but now has been heard from three independent credible sources. The sources are the same people who told me that US & UA were working on a carve out of UA's network into US Airways that I called the UCT, and then when it adjusted into the company's so called "Project Minnow", and I used the acronym ICT to describe the revised corporate transaction.

Will a deal happen? I do not know. Is United trying to sell some assets to get creditor support to get a POR that can be confirmed? Yes.

By the way, who indicated earlier this week the airline industry was on the doorstep of "Unprecedented Change"? Then a couple of days later there was a "historic" event when two legacy carriers, ranked #3 & #4 in the country, simultaneously filed for a judicial reorganization.

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How can that be?

Meanwhile, US Airways is about to emerge from bankruptcy with one of the strongest balance sheets in the business for a carrier of its size in about 10 days. In my opinion, the company will not execute another merger on the heels of this merger and in the past did a 3-way merger before and quickly saw the harmonization difficulties. Instead we could see transactions like United did to Pan Am, American did to TWA before their merger, and Delta did to Pan AM. Why? Mergers are very difficult to successfully complete and during very difficult financial times, a merger could be fatal, thus a fragmentation scenario may make more sense. Will it be TED? Who knows? TED is just one option being discussed, but I am fairly certain there will be another corporate transaction in the new US Airways' future in the not-so-distant future.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
By the way, who indicated earlier this week the airline industry was on the doorstep of "Unprecedented Change"?
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:rolleyes:

You must be kidding.

You only realized an "unprecedented change" was coming to the industry earlier this week?

For months, everyone knew the DL and NW Ch.11 filings were coming.

For YEARS, everyone has known "unprecedented change" was happening in the industry.

(Of course the difference is, most of us don't start new threads about it every few hours.)
 
USA320Pilot said:
but I am fairly certain there will be another corporate transaction in the new US Airways' future in the not-so-distant future.
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Does purchasing supplies count? I mean, the new US Airways probably could use some new pens from Staples, so if someone from the corporate office drives to Staples and purchases some pens, they are acquiring the pens as part of a corporate transaction. The ownership of those pens will be transferred from Staples to the new US Airways. Why do you waste your time being a pilot when you can predict the future?

Bear96 said:
(Of course the difference is, most of us don't start new threads about it every few hours.)
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Or tell everybody how they are Nostradamus himself.
 
My point about "Unprecedented Change" was the tmining of DL & NW filing for their "judicial reorganizations", which is what is unprecedented.

Delta, Northwest Expected to Look Different After Bankruptcy, Maybe Even Like Smaller Rivals

In the end, if they survive, the nation's third- and fourth-largest airlines will be smaller and may look more like the discount rivals that helped send them into bankruptcy.

That perspective by analysts, bankruptcy experts and academics was underscored Thursday as Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines Inc. and Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest Airlines Corp. sought to reject certain aircraft leases. In Delta's case, it also asked a New York bankruptcy judge to allow it to abandon some properties and prevent utilities from turning off its power.

Complete Story

Northwest to cut 400 pilots, 13% flying hours: Detroit News

Complete Story

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Many, many things that have happened over the past couple of years in the industry, and that will continue to happen over the next couple of years, are "unprecedented."
 
USA320Pilot said:
My point about "Unprecedented Change" was the tmining[sic] of DL & NW filing for their "judicial reorganizations", which is what is unprecedented.

What total malarkey! Your entire thread entitled Unprecedented Change never mentioned either of those carriers, specifically. Good gawd man, get thee to a therapist, if you can stop spinning long enough! :blink:
 
Get used to less pussy-pilots in the new US Airways. I just can't wait for the PIT, PHL & PHX pilots to be "sympatico" -- i.e. they have a spine.
 
EyeInTheSky said:
Get used to less pussy-pilots in the new US Airways.  I just can't wait for the PIT, PHL & PHX pilots to be "sympatico" -- i.e. they have a spine.
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Amen. If the BOS, CLT, DCA and LGA pilots retain their current representation the combined group is in for a very a bumpy and painful (financially and otherwise) ride.

Recall the Give Away Gang. Especially the MEC Chairman.
 
I know it was reported yesterday on CNN that Delta and NWA may explore a potential merger. what is your take on that and also some on the NWA board of this website say that it is also possible that NWA and US may do a combination how would that affect the new US?