Bott's Post On 4m

[flyingmywingsoff]

for those of you who still have any doubts that john ward is not a total creep, please read jeff bott's post on the 4m. he worked with him for years on the bod, and tells it like it is.

 

[jsn25911]

I second that! Also, you need to read the email from Rock that discloses where the "hate" site originated from. Rock discloses where the site originated from. The site reminds me of the "dumb criminal" show. Like the one where the dumb criminal robbed a store, took pictures, then left the camera in the store.

I hope the word is spread about what is really occuring at apfa. I just have to ask - If they are so busy doing all this negativity against the workforce - when do they have time to concentrate on improving the working conditions for f/a's or getting flight attendants back to work.

Get new people in there to work on the issues.

 

[Flyboy4u]

Can anyone give me the addy for this 4M site everyone is talking about?


Thanks

 

[chisprings]

Can anyone give me the addy for this 4M site everyone is talking about?


Thanks

The 4M is a private Yahoo! groups for members of the APFA.

I have the Jeff Bott and Rock Solomon email's. If you want a copy, I will forward it to you. Just send me an email.

ChiSprings

Voting for the TWA candidates myself.

 

[jsn25911]

Both Jeff's and Rock's emails are listed under "fooled again by ward"

 

[onceoza]

Can anyone give me the addy for this 4M site everyone is talking about?


Thanks

The 4M is a private Yahoo! groups for members of the APFA.

IVoting for the TWA candidates myself.

Unless you are an TWA APFA member. We are not welcome on the 4m board. :down:

 

[StraaightTaalk]

Can anyone give me the addy for this 4M site everyone is talking about?


Thanks

The 4M is a private Yahoo! groups for members of the APFA.

IVoting for the TWA candidates myself.

Unless you are an TWA APFA member. We are not welcome on the 4m board. :down:

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

 

[onceoza]

Unless you are an TWA APFA member. We are not welcome on the 4m board. :down:

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:[/QUOTE]
Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not.

 

[StraaightTaalk]

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not. [/quote]
Then, don't be a hypocrite, and open the "My Family" board to ALL AA flight attendants, and maybe the AA flight attendants would be willing to open the 4m to TWA people.

Quit acting like a victim.

 

[onceoza]

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not.

Then, don't be a hypocrite, and open the "My Family" board to ALL AA flight attendants, and maybe the AA flight attendants would be willing to open the 4m to TWA people.

Quit acting like a victim. [/quote]
Then change the board membership requirement to nAAtive American flight attendants only. Don't say it's open to all APFA members.

 

[StraaightTaalk]

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not.

Then, don't be a hypocrite, and open the "My Family" board to ALL AA flight attendants, and maybe the AA flight attendants would be willing to open the 4m to TWA people.

Quit acting like a victim.

Then change the board membership requirement to nAAtive American flight attendants only. Don't say it's open to all APFA members. [/quote]
I would assume that there are Board moderators..maybe you should contact them.

 

[onceoza]

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not.

Then, don't be a hypocrite, and open the "My Family" board to ALL AA flight attendants, and maybe the AA flight attendants would be willing to open the 4m to TWA people.

Quit acting like a victim.

Then change the board membership requirement to nAAtive American flight attendants only. Don't say it's open to all APFA members.

I would assume that there are Board moderators..maybe you should contact them. [/quote]
I have

 

[StraaightTaalk]

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not.

Then, don't be a hypocrite, and open the "My Family" board to ALL AA flight attendants, and maybe the AA flight attendants would be willing to open the 4m to TWA people.

Quit acting like a victim.

Then change the board membership requirement to nAAtive American flight attendants only. Don't say it's open to all APFA members.

I would assume that there are Board moderators..maybe you should contact them.

I have [/QUOTE]
And????

I don't follow the 4m normally, but I have to say that you are being very hypocritical here. AA flight attendants are just as entitled to a place to meet online, as the TWA flight attendants are, without interference from the other side.

Get over it.

 

[onceoza]

Kinda like the "My Family" board, to which AA flight attendants are not welcome.

:down: :down: :down:

Slight difference, Str8.

The 4M board is "open to all APFA members", which describes me. I am an APFA member.

The My family board is open to ex TWA flight attendants, which you are not.

Then, don't be a hypocrite, and open the "My Family" board to ALL AA flight attendants, and maybe the AA flight attendants would be willing to open the 4m to TWA people.

Quit acting like a victim.

Then change the board membership requirement to nAAtive American flight attendants only. Don't say it's open to all APFA members.

I would assume that there are Board moderators..maybe you should contact them.

I have[/QUOTE]
If you all want to have your own private board, fine with me. My problem with 4M is that the membership requirement is that you be an APFA member. Don't be hypocritical and say it's open to all APFA members when it's not. The TWA flight attendants are APFA members. The APFA happily accepted dues money from me. Face it...accept it...we're not going away. If some of you hadn't been so short-sighted and arrogant and accepted the willing expertise of some of TWA's brilliant negotiators, maybe there wouldn't be so many furloughed and just maybe you wouldn't be working under the horrible giveaway contract.

 

[onceoza]

Sorry for double posting...can't figure out how to delete it.