Cabin Configuration Changes....

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Watching a few twitter streams out of a media event at DFW in progress right now...

Fleet changes
  • 767-300 fleet starts retirements in 2015
Cabin changes
  • Fully flat business class seating coming to the 772's with direct aisle access
  • First Class cabin being removed on the 772 fleet
  • Considering 3-3-3 seating in the back on the 777 fleet
Technology changes
  • Wifi coming to the entire domestic fleet by Summer 2013
  • Wifi also coming to the 772 fleet, but not the 773's
  • Testing smartphone app for flight attendant use (40 FA's testing already)
 
Some of this is long overdue...

FORT WORTH, Texas, May 9, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- American Airlines today took the next step in its fleet modernization plan – to ensure that its customers are flying onboard one of the most modern fleets in the industry. Today's progress includes the redesign and refresh of the airline's international widebody aircraft – a demonstration of the forward movement of the company's business plan, which includes the investment of several hundred million dollars per year in enhancements to the customer experience. As part of this redesign, American's entire fleet of 777-200ERs will have fully lie-flat Business Class seats with aisle access for every seat, international Wi-Fi, in-seat entertainment throughout all cabins, and Main Cabin Extra seating offering more legroom. The 767-300ERs will have fully lie-flat Business Class seats with aisle access for every seat, and Main Cabin Extra seating.

"This redesign will comprehensively improve our future international widebody experience through fully lie-flat all-aisle access seats, inflight entertainment and Wi-Fi, and will place our product among the industry leaders. This is something our people are excited to see as we work toward a new and modern American Airlines," said Virasb Vahidi, American's Chief Commercial Officer. "Our decision to invest in our international widebody aircraft demonstrates significant forward progress, consistent with our plan, and paints a picture of the future for our customers and people."

Boeing 777-200ERs

American's entire fleet of 777-200ERs will be redesigned to a two-class cabin configuration to better match capacity and demand. The aircraft cabin will feature unique mood lighting and a dramatic archway and ceiling treatment to create a feeling of spaciousness similar to the 777-300ERs, the first of which American plans to receive later this year. A Business Class walk-up bar stocked with snacks and refreshments is for premium customers. International Wi-Fi will also be available inflight.

Up to 45 new fully lie-flat Business Class seats will provide customers among the largest living spaces of any 777 Business Class seat offered by U.S. airlines. The new seat will be an industry leader giving travelers up to two times more living space than American's current 777-200ER Business Class seat. Seats will feature a large tray table, a work surface, and every component of the seat – including the seatback, head rest and leg rest – can be individually adjusted using intuitively designed, simplistic seat controls.

Direct aisle access from each Business Class seat will allow customers to easily move about the cabin without impacting other customers. In-seat entertainment will feature more than 700 hours of on-demand audio and video entertainment, which gives customers an enormous selection during their flight. Up to 120 movies, 180 TV programs, 350 audio selections and 30 games will be available on a 15.4-inch HD-capable touchscreen monitor positioned in each Business Class suite. A premium handset will serve as a remote that will allow customers to easily select programming without touching the monitor. Also, every seat will feature individual 110-volt universal AC power outlets and USB jacks for charging personal electronic devices.

Throughout the Main Cabin, new seats will provide increased knee room and improve overall customer comfort. American's retrofit will include installation of up to 45 Main Cabin Extra seats and up to 170 Main Cabin seats. The Main Cabin Extra seats, located in the forward portion of the Main Cabin, will offer four to six inches more legroom than the standard Main Cabin seat, allowing greater personal space and convenient access when boarding and deplaning.

Every Main Cabin seat will have universal AC power outlets, USB jacks and HD-capable touchscreen monitor – nearly 9 inches – loaded with up to 120 movies, 180 TV programs, 350 audio selections and 30 games. Once redesigned with the new Inflight Entertainment, the 777-200ERs will have more than nine times the number of entertainment options that are currently available in the Main Cabin on today's 777-200ER.

The 777-200ER is intended to fly mid- to long-haul international markets in Europe, Asia and South America.

"American will be among the first in the industry to offer the combination of fully lie-flat seats with all-aisle access, international Wi-Fi, and top-of-the-line in-seat entertainment," added Vahidi.

Boeing 767-300ERs

American intends to retrofit up to half of its existing 767-300ER aircraft. Those that are redesigned will operate the new configuration with fully lie-flat Business Class Seats and all-aisle access. The remaining 767-300ERs that are not redesigned will be retired over time.

Customers will enjoy an enhanced onboard experience with the installation of up to 28 fully lie-flat Business Class seats, each with aisle access. The Business Class seats will offer individual tray tables with a work surface, and universal AC power outlets. Samsung Galaxy Tab™ 10.1 devices will continue to be available for customers seated in Business Class, offering access to a wide variety of movies, TV programs and audio selections.

The retrofitted 767-300ERs will also feature 14 Main Cabin Extra seats with four to six inches more legroom than a standard Main Cabin seat. The Main Cabin of the retrofitted 767-300ERs will have 167 seats.

The airline intends to use retrofitted 767-300ERs on flights to existing markets.

The redesign is slated to begin in early 2014. American is currently working to determine the installation timeline and will have more details on anticipated completion dates in the future.

As part of its international widebody strategy, American anticipates taking delivery of 10 Boeing 777-300ERs beginning at the end of 2012 through 2013. The 777-300ERs will be configured as three-class aircraft and include fully lie-flat First and Business Class seats, Main Cabin Extra, and Wi-Fi capability to keep customers connected while traveling internationally.

Not only is American's anticipated aircraft delivery and redesign part of the company's network focus and international network plan, it is a tangible opportunity for customers to experience American's focus on modernization and innovation when they travel.
 
Bummer about the removal of First Class. That sucks.

If 777s go to 3-3-3 in the back, that's completely stupid - why triple the number of middle seats? In the current configuration of 2-5-2, all seats are pairs until the load factor exceeds 91%. Carty and Arpey may have blundered on many things, but on this one, they were correct. Of course, one single Flyertalk poster has said that he has seen the 77W seatmaps and he claims that AA will actually go to 3-4-3 in the back and the extra legroom section will be 3-3-3.

The 763 retirements are completely expected as the 787s were ordered to replace them, and by 2015, the 787-9s should be on the way.

The CX-style business class seats are a plus.
 
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Yea, passenger conveniences enhanced, and workers lives decreased in quality.

I guess the removal of FC is bad for employees in two counts 1) fewer FAs on board 2) more difficult for NRSAs to obtain premium cabin seating

So will the 787s have F?

Josh
 
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I guess the removal of FC is bad for employees in two counts 1) fewer FAs on board 2) more difficult for NRSAs to obtain premium cabin seating

So will the 787s have F?

Josh

I'll take that as smug sarcasm.
 
Yea, passenger conveniences enhanced, and workers lives decreased in quality.

Perhaps, but this is all stuff that has caused AA to lose business to other airlines...

AA hasn't really invested much in their hard product for the past 10 years, and it shows. I'd rather fly Iberia and have atrocious food & crappy service than sit in a wedgie seat with better food & better service.

Of course, one single Flyertalk poster has said that he has seen the 77W seatmaps and he claims that AA will actually go to 3-4-3 in the back and the extra legroom section will be 3-3-3.

I don't doubt they looked at it. Emirates does 3-4-3 and that's part of their strategy for maximizing yields in the back while leaving more room for premium cabin... but it's painful.

So will the 787s have F?


Unlikely. It's a 767 replacement.
 
Doesn't AA staff extra FAs to provide enhanced F service? Many of my flights have empty seats even after NRSAs are accommodated like JFK-NRT and ORD-PVG. I guess it's a concession the company has imposed and since NRSA privileges are non-contractual you have no recourse.

Josh
 
Unlikely. It's a 767 replacement.

So will AA F be limited to the 77W flights? Places like LHR, NRT, and GRU can definitely justify F, perhaps a cabin of 8-12 seats is more appropriate than 16. Face it, CX flies their 77Ws with 6F (my favorite), AF A380 has 9, why does AA need 16 on a 777?

Josh
 
Watching a few twitter streams out of a media event at DFW in progress right now...

Fleet changes
  • 767-300 fleet starts retirements in 2015
Cabin changes
  • Fully flat business class seating coming to the 772's with direct aisle access
  • First Class cabin being removed on the 772 fleet
  • Considering 3-3-3 seating in the back on the 777 fleet
Technology changes
  • Wifi coming to the entire domestic fleet by Summer 2013
  • Wifi also coming to the 772 fleet, but not the 773's
  • Testing smartphone app for flight attendant use (40 FA's testing already)

More rearranging of the Titanic's deck chairs? Will the band be playing "Highway To Hell" (instead of the legend's "Nearer My God to Thee) in this incarnation?
 
The 787-9 is designed as a replacement for the 763 but its floor area contains almost as many square feet as the 772.

Serious question: If there's so little demand for paid F that AA will offer it on only 10 77Ws, then I have to wonder whether there's enough demand for F to offer it on those few planes as well? Ten airplanes is a very small fleet when you're talking about China, Japan and Deep South America.
 
Agree -- it's not worth confusing the product at that point, unless the plan is to grow the 77W fleet once the pilot staffing issues on ultra-long-haul are resolved.
 
Good point. Additionally, there are six other long-deffered 772 orders that could become 77Ws.

I have speculated that the 77Ws represent Boeing's compensation to AA for the delay in the 787-9s. Not as in free, but perhaps subsized/deeply discounted. They are the only planes on order for which AA admitted it has no financing in place - perhaps Boeing Capital is planning a highly discounted lease deal. There were conflicting internet rumours that Air India was demanding hundreds of millions in compensation from Boeing for its two dozen 787 order. AA's 42 787s should be worth some compensation.
 
I don't quite understand the point of going 3-3-3 vs 2-5-2. It is still 9 seats across. Unless they plan to go 3-4-3 like the Frienchies? If they only want to standardize the 777s with BA 3-3-3 seating then it is a waste of money.

Also I can't believe that only 10 aircraft will offer 3-class seating, unless more 3-class aircraft are going to be joining the 3-class fleet (be they 77W or 787s).

What is going to happen to the 767-200s being used on transcons now? What will replace those? Will it still be 3-class product?
 
I'm expecting that the 762s get parked as soon as AA has enough A321s on the property and they will likely be configured with very nice flat J up front in two-class arrangement.

A couple weeks ago I speculated that perhaps some JFK-LAX flights might see 777s in their current configuration. Right now, LAX-MIA sees two 777s a day. Imagine the marketing advantage AA would have to the big-money NYC and entertainment industry customers who pay for AA's current F. A Flagship Suite? Nobody else offers anything comparable. Sure, the 777 is too much plane for the crowded transcons. But remember, there has been one and sometimes two daily 777s between MIA and LAX.

Now, however, with the news that F is toast on the 777s, the earlier rumours of A321s sounds like the reality. Ugh.
 

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