Cia Agrees With Kerry.

[RJcasualty]

Yesterday, the Kerry campaign issued a statement saying: "Nothing in this report absolves the White House of its responsibility for mishandling of the country's intelligence. The fact is that when it comes to national security, the buck stops at the White House, not anywhere else."

A senior intelligence official speaking on condition of anonymity agreed with that logic yesterday, saying the CIA's assertions, whatever their accuracy, did not in themselves justify going to war; the agency made no recommendation on this. "Policymakers should not be immune from the decision on what to do," the official said.

 

[delldude]

yeah...you're right on the money...
BUSH LIED

 

[RJcasualty]

Dude, There'll come a point when CIA folk will have had enough of the Bush blame game. Watch for the maligned to begin stepping forward.

 

[sentrido]

yeah...you're right on the money...
BUSH LIED

As far as the Niger Issue is concerned, I dont know what Bush knew, but I know the WHITE HOUSE knew it was bull cause they removed it from an earlier speech. And the author of the op/ed is plain wrong about this: "But it doesn't claim that the CIA actively discarded or disregarded contravening evidence"
Unless Fox news lied to me this morning.

The thing that bothered me about the whole Iraq Issue was that there was never a smoking gun presented to the American people.When the white house was looking at the "evidence" during the infamouse "slam dunk" incident, they acknowledged they didnt really have anything.If I was about to make the decisioin to go to war.The biggest decision of my life.A decision that would kill a lot of people. I wouldnt care about what the CIA told me.Id care about what they showed me. We had inspectors back in Iraq. They were being directed where to look by the CIA. They werent finding any thing.Then we had this war of the willing, which pulled resources from Afganistan and the hunt for the guy that attacked us.It just doesnt add up for me.

 

[delldude]

Dude, There'll come a point when CIA folk will have had enough of the Bush blame game. Watch for the maligned to begin stepping forward.

you must be refering to kerry,brownshirt.

 

[delldude]

As far as the Niger Issue is concerned, I dont know what Bush knew, but I know the WHITE HOUSE knew it was bull cause they removed it from an earlier speech. And the author of the op/ed is plain wrong about this: "But it doesn't claim that the CIA actively discarded or disregarded contravening evidence"
Unless Fox news lied to me this morning.

The thing that bothered me about the whole Iraq Issue was that there was never a smoking gun presented to the American people.When the white house was looking at the "evidence" during the infamouse "slam dunk" incident, they acknowledged they didnt really have anything.If I was about to make the decisioin to go to war.The biggest decision of my life.A decision that would kill a lot of people. I wouldnt care about what the CIA told me.Id care about what they showed me. We had inspectors back in Iraq. They were being directed where to look by the CIA. They werent finding any thing.Then we had this war of the willing, which pulled resources from Afganistan and the hunt for the guy that attacked us.It just doesnt add up for me.

i see you are speculating....my,my...
there are reasons we aren't privy to and most likely won't know.....ever.
i support what has been done and trust bush's judgemnet...say what you will but he has the balls to go and take the fight to them on their soil.kerry will fight them in the shopping malls,fight them in the stadiums....fight them when they attack our children in their schools...you see thats the difference....kerrys an appeaser and bush means what he says...
bush: kill them over there . 😉
kerry:lets open a dialoge-osama can't be all that bad.... 🙁

 

[sentrido]

Talk about speculation.

Any way I just got done reading the parts of the report relavant to the Niger issue. I looks like it depended who you got at the CIA to vet the speech affected what was viable intel and what wasnt.Those dumbasss cant even agree on what was in the version of the state of the union speech that got vetted cause they never kept a hard copy at the CIA.It doesnt really address who knew at the White House it was bunk or not, but it got by the CIA the second time they tried to use it.So if no new info comes out to the contrary, i have to give the White house a pass on that one.The whole Irony of this issue is that Iraq didnt need to buy any yellow Cake from Niger, they had all they needed already. And even If they wanted It, Niger couldnt provide it anyway. Where the hell was the press in all of this? Those facts were public.

Anyway, what exactly in my previous statment are you calling speculation?

And as far as the crap about Kerry or democrats being lightweights, get over it. If you like Bush and his desicions thats fine, but your characterizations of Kerry/Dems are a little ridiculous. Every Dem I know supported Afganistan, and most supported Iraq. Was Afganistan not a war? Bush is stubborn. this looks like great leadership, until you are wrong.

 

[sentrido]

We does bush keep saying saddam wouldnt let the inspectors into Iraq before the war?

 

[mweiss]

If you say something enough, it makes it true.

 

[sentrido]

I would love to see a list of the people who got a look at the clasified version of the NIE.

 

[AgMedallion]

i see you are speculating....my,my...
there are reasons we aren't privy to and most likely won't know.....ever.
i support what has been done and trust bush's judgemnet...say what you will but he has the balls to go and take the fight to them on their soil.kerry will fight them in the shopping malls,fight them in the stadiums....fight them when they attack our children in their schools...you see thats the difference....kerrys an appeaser and bush means what he says...
bush: kill them over there . 😉
kerry:lets open a dialoge-osama can't be all that bad.... 🙁

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Kerry says he will fight the war against terror with "sensitivity". I suppose this means he'll sit down for lunch with Osama where they'll have Lady fingers, cucumber sandwiches and some tea. Perhaps the deal Kerry will press for is that Al Qaeda shouldn't kill more than a thousand Americans at one time, or limit their car bombs to no more than 500 lbs of explosive or maybe place a restrictive "MA" rating on their beheading videos. Dennis Miller compared the Dems to the Eloi in the 1960 movie "The Time Machine", Al Qaeda to the Morlocks, Bush to Rod Taylor, and John Kerry to Yvette Mimieux. 😀 Unfortunately, Miller is dead on in his analogy.

 

[KCFlyer]

Kerry says he will fight the war against terror with "sensitivity". I suppose this means he'll sit down for lunch with Osama where they'll have Lady fingers, cucumber sandwiches and some tea. Perhaps the deal Kerry will press for is that Al Qaeda shouldn't kill more than a thousand Americans at one time, or limit their car bombs to no more than 500 lbs of explosive or maybe place a restrictive "MA" rating on their beheading videos. Dennis Miller compared the Dems to the Eloi in the 1960 movie "The Time Machine", Al Qaeda to the Morlocks, Bush to Rod Taylor, and John Kerry to Yvette Mimieux. 😀 Unfortunately, Miller is dead on in his analogy.

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too bad you and Dennis Miller miss the point. The "sensitivity" issue pretty much means that we would be sensitive to the role other countries might take in this "war on terrorism". Right now, we've got the terrorists against us, and much of the rest of the world against us as well. Perhaps sitting down with other world leaders and actually LISTENING to their concerns instead of shouting "you're either with us or agin us" and "F--- You, Frogs". We might actually see that there are wiser men in this world than Cheney and Rumsfeld.

 

[NWA/AMT]

Sounds like the NeoCons are getting a little nervous; they're even forgetting the words of their own boy now:

“Dick Cheney’s desperate misleading attacks now have him criticizing George Bush’s own words, who called for America to be “sensitive about expressing our power and influence.†Dick Cheney doesn’t understand that arrogance isn’t a virtue, especially when our country is in danger. Alienating allies makes it harder to hunt terrorists and bring them to justice. If Dick Cheney learned this lesson instead of spending his time distorting John Kerry’s words, this country would be a safer place.†- Kerry spokesman Phil Singer.

 

[sentrido]

Maybe Dick forgot, Just like he forgot the way he(Dick) supported almost identicle cuts in defense spending he critisizes Kerry for, Or the fact he(Dick) wanted a huge gas tax.Or the way Bush fortgets he didnt support the 911 commision and the WMD commission.Some people dont like Kerry for the president they think he might be, but WE KNOW what America under Bush is like, and right now a majority dont like it.

 

[AgMedallion]

too bad you and Dennis Miller miss the point. The "sensitivity" issue pretty much means that we would be sensitive to the role other countries might take in this "war on terrorism". Right now, we've got the terrorists against us, and much of the rest of the world against us as well.

Oh, is that the latest spin on Kerry's foot-in-mouth faux pas? That guy can explain his way out of anything, like voting for something before he voted against it. :huh:

Perhaps sitting down with other world leaders and actually LISTENING to their concerns instead of shouting "you're either with us or agin us" and "F--- You, Frogs".

Like Schroeder who just cared about being reelected? Or Chirac who was getting kickbacks from the oil-for-food-program? (Note that the wonderful French wouldn't even allow our bombers to fly through their airspace on the way to bombing Libya in 1986 and were even petty enough that their leader refused to attend the state funeral for former President Reagan). Or a vast assemblage of turd world leaders who don't have a dog in the fight? The French would be especially valuable if our military needs to know how to raise their hands in surrender.

Perhaps the French should focus on the anti-semitism that is rampant in their country. The State Department should issue a travel advisory warning Jewish Americans not to visit France.

If Kerry wins, he won't do diddly against the terrorists unless the U.N., esp France, approves. Fat chance. At least he'll be "sensitive". 🙄