Closing Alliance?

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Closing Alliance operation among American's options
By Trebor Banstetter
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH _ American Airlines executives are considering consolidating its maintenance operations to save money _ a move that could close the airline's base at Alliance Airport in Fort Worth.

Airline officials confirmed Thursday that they are considering a base consolidation. But they also stressed that they are evaluating options that would keep all three of American's maintenance bases open.

We're looking at all of our options with the same intensity, said Todd Burke, a spokesman. We continue to look at every aspect of our business in search of cost-cutting opportunities, he said.

In addition to Alliance, American has maintenance and engineering operations in Kansas City, Mo., and Tulsa, Okla.

Randy McDonald, president of the Tulsa chapter of the Transport Workers Union, which represents American's mechanics and ground workers, is writing letters to American executives and board members urging them to keep its maintenance bases open, The Associated Press reports.

Local union officials did not return phone calls to the Star-Telegram Thursday.

American has about 2,300 employees at the Alliance base, and 2,400 workers at its Kansas City facility. The Tulsa base has 9,100 employees.

The potential closure of one of those bases was seen as a major threat when ground workers were pondering whether to accept $620 million in concessions last month.

In early April, American executives told labor leaders that they would consolidate maintenance work at the Tulsa base, and outsource some operations to independent contractors, if workers rejected concessions and the company filed for bankruptcy. That would have meant shutting down the Alliance and Kansas City operations.

American has lost $6.2 billion during the last 27 months as it struggles with a steep downturn in business travel and fierce competition from discount airlines such as Southwest Airlines and AirTran Airways.

The company is in the midst of a massive cost-cutting drive in an attempt to return to profitability. Executives have targeted $4 billion in annual cuts, which include $1.8 billion in employee concessions approved last month.

American says it is cutting more than 7,000 jobs companywide under the new union contracts. The airline is expected to take a substantial charge during the second quarter related to severance and benefits for furloughed employees.

More than 1,500 ground workers are expected to lose their jobs, but it's not clear how many of those work at American's maintenance bases.

American has already has some success in cutting maintenance costs as it retires airplanes and reduces flights. The airline spent $231 million on maintenance, materials and repairs during the first quarter, down from $266 million during the first quarter of 2002.

Maintenance accounted for about 5 percent of American's total operating expenses during the quarter.



Trebor Banstetter, (817) 390-7064
[email protected]



http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/5976236.htm
 
Maintenance accounted for about 5 percent of American''s total operating expenses during the quarter.
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FIVE PERCENT?

Can that be right?
 
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On 5/31/2003 5:57:10 PM Wretched Wrench wrote:

Closing Alliance operation among American''s options
By Trebor Banstetter
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH _ American Airlines executives are considering consolidating its maintenance operations to save money _ a move that could close the airline''s base at Alliance Airport in Fort Worth.

Airline officials confirmed Thursday that they are considering a base consolidation. But they also stressed that they are evaluating options that would keep all three of American''s maintenance bases open.

"We''re looking at all of our options with the same intensity," said Todd Burke, a spokesman. "We continue to look at every aspect of our business" in search of cost-cutting opportunities, he said.

In addition to Alliance, American has maintenance and engineering operations in Kansas City, Mo., and Tulsa, Okla.

Randy McDonald, president of the Tulsa chapter of the Transport Workers Union, which represents American''s mechanics and ground workers, is writing letters to American executives and board members urging them to keep its maintenance bases open, The Associated Press reports.

Local union officials did not return phone calls to the Star-Telegram Thursday.

American has about 2,300 employees at the Alliance base, and 2,400 workers at its Kansas City facility. The Tulsa base has 9,100 employees.

The potential closure of one of those bases was seen as a major threat when ground workers were pondering whether to accept $620 million in concessions last month.

In early April, American executives told labor leaders that they would consolidate maintenance work at the Tulsa base, and outsource some operations to independent contractors, if workers rejected concessions and the company filed for bankruptcy. That would have meant shutting down the Alliance and Kansas City operations.

American has lost $6.2 billion during the last 27 months as it struggles with a steep downturn in business travel and fierce competition from discount airlines such as Southwest Airlines and AirTran Airways.

The company is in the midst of a massive cost-cutting drive in an attempt to return to profitability. Executives have targeted $4 billion in annual cuts, which include $1.8 billion in employee concessions approved last month.

American says it is cutting more than 7,000 jobs companywide under the new union contracts. The airline is expected to take a substantial charge during the second quarter related to severance and benefits for furloughed employees.

More than 1,500 ground workers are expected to lose their jobs, but it''s not clear how many of those work at American''s maintenance bases.

American has already has some success in cutting maintenance costs as it retires airplanes and reduces flights. The airline spent $231 million on maintenance, materials and repairs during the first quarter, down from $266 million during the first quarter of 2002.

Maintenance accounted for about 5 percent of American''s total operating expenses during the quarter.



Trebor Banstetter, (817) 390-7064
[email protected]



http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/5976236.htm

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Let me see if I''ve got this straight.

(AA) "Either you(TWU) vote in concessions, or I''m going to be forced to shut down AFW/MCI"

(TWU/J. LITTLE) "Don''t worry, we''ll get your concessions voted in, one way, or another"

(AA) "Great"


Now with concessions securely "tucked away", AA is strongly considering shutting down AFW/MCI ???????????

If this happens, will the first bunch of MORONS,(who were seen posting on this board) "AT LEAST WE DID"NT WIND UP IN BK-11", PLEEEEESE "resume" posting for all of us to see ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

"TWU-AAericans Strenghth"

(Merciful GOD in Heaven, please help us) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NH/BB''s
 
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On 5/31/2003 6:05:26 PM Wretched Wrench wrote:

Maintenance accounted for about 5 percent of American''s total operating expenses during the quarter.
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FIVE PERCENT?

Can that be right?

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Well if it is then we really got srewed over by Little and his boys. According to the ATA the industry averages around 11% for maint.
 
I with you NHBB''s. Closing AFW and MCIE was a big threat. I know mechanics that voted "YES" just because of that threat. So they use that threat to get the concessions passed, then a couple of months after the deal gets done, they close them anyway. Is that bargaining in good faith?
 
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On 6/1/2003 8:38:50 AM Bob Owens wrote:




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On 5/31/2003 6:05:26 PM Wretched Wrench wrote:

Maintenance accounted for about 5 percent of American's total operating expenses during the quarter.
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FIVE PERCENT?

Can that be right?

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Well if it is then we really got srewed over by Little and his boys. According to the ATA the industry averages around 11% for maint.

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Without question, we really got screwed over by Little and his boys, not withstanding what the actual percentage of budget maintenance might be.
 
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On 6/1/2003 9:44:29 AM bagsmasher wrote:

I with you NHBB''s. Closing AFW and MCIE was a big threat. I know mechanics that voted "YES" just because of that threat. So they use that threat to get the concessions passed, then a couple of months after the deal gets done, they close them anyway. Is that bargaining in good faith?

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Your missing the point. The big threat was the closure of AFW, MCI and half of TUL with the work being OUTSOURCED! That is Eliminated, IE, NEVER COMING BACK! If AFW or MCI is closed the work AND THE JOBS now will be split between TUL and the other remaining maint base!
 
RV4 wrote;

"Why bother to be in a union, if the members are nothing more than "capitulating cowards", and the leaders are "unwilling" to fight" ???

RV4(AMFA Dave);

IMHO, THOSE ARE THE STRONGEST, and "TRUEST" WORDS THAT YOU HAVE "EVER" POSTED ON THIS, OR ANY OTHER MSG. BOARD !!!!!

NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE SAID, ON THIS HORRIBLE SITUATION.

WHY ?

BECAUSE "NO OTHER WORDS" COULD BETTER DESCRIBE THIS MESS ! NOTHING ! NADA !

GOD HELP US.

NH/BB''s
 
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On 6/1/2003 3:51:49 PM AAmech wrote:




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Your missing the point. The big threat was the closure of AFW, MCI and half of TUL with the work being OUTSOURCED! That is Eliminated, IE, NEVER COMING BACK! If AFW or MCI is closed the work AND THE JOBS now will be split between TUL and the other remaining maint base!​

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Sounds like typical TWU, AAmech must be from Tulsa.

I GOT MINE BROTHER!

Do you really believe that we could never make outsource of work a number one issue in negotiations and get the work back? What about your "strength in numbers", "triumph through unity", "will strike if provoked", "united we stand devided we beg", "united-invincable", "strike force - dead serious"...

Are you now admitting that those are just slogans? And you and the rest of the cowards who call themselves union men do not believe we can win any battle?

Of course, it is true that due to the latest TWU concessions, it will take more than one battle just to get back what the TWU gave away.

Why bother to be in a union, if the members are nothing more than capitulating cowards and the leaders are unwilling to fight?

Maybe you should get a new slogan...

"TWU WONT FIGHT - WE LOSE"
 
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On 6/1/2003 3:51:49 PM AAmech wrote:




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Your missing the point.  The big threat was the closure of AFW, MCI and half of TUL with the work being OUTSOURCED!  That is Eliminated, IE, NEVER COMING BACK!   If AFW or MCI is closed the work AND THE JOBS now will be split between TUL and the other remaining maint base!

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Fear, fear, fear. Try using a little logic for a change.
Well who says they would have outsourced all of that work? The company? And you believe everything they say? Do these MROs, that are trying to deal with the surge created by UAL, have the ability and facilities available to take over all this work? Well if they do then why arent the unions over there trying to organize them?

The simple response should have been that we have a contract, that contract used to say that they could not lay anyone off who had a March 1 2001 seniority date. We got this language in exchange for many concessions that American''s competators still do not have, even after BK reorganization. If you contract out their work then you better find something for these workers to do because you cant lay them off.

That is how its supposed to work. Assuming that we have a union that is willing to fight to enforce a contract, not leaders who want service charged waived passes to go to Hawaii.

Never coming back!? How do you know? Doesnt it seem reasonable to assume that as more work is sent to these MROs that eventually their prices will go up? With OSMs and all the other language that AA already enjoyed how much of a cost savings would be realized by outsourcing, and at what price to dependability and lost service time? You have to remember that now this work would be done at the vendors discretion, not AAs schedule. If these carriers dismantle their own facilities the vendors will have them by the gonads. Before the vendors had to compete with these airlines for work on smaller airlines. Now they would have it locked up, and they would enjoy "price control".

Besides if we threatened to strike if they violate the contract what makes you think that the company could withstand a strike? Dont you remember all the figures the company gave us in 97, when the pilots were going to strike? And that was when they were making record profits. Was the company lieing then? Isnt that why we are told that we should be happy all being in the same union? So we can fight together instead of with each other? Mutual protection? What happened?
 

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